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There goes the scholarship,

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right?

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Yeah,

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It's gonna be a while.

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We're a safe distance away right now.

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You could see the comedy of this if you knock over the lamp,

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and that knock over the table,

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then there goes a pot and the pot hits a painting.

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It puts a hole in the painting.

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OK.

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Alright,

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no pressure.

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We are

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Tentatively ready?

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This camera

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The scammers are

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OK,

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we're rolling.

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You're ready.

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But I'm gonna be.

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Matt's gonna get us,

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get us all.

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Hello,

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this is Emily Holdaway,

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Courtney Volmering,

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and Matthew Gernstead interviewing Doctor Craig and Ambassador Barbara Barrett

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on February 5,

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2019 at 2 p.m. in Fountain Hills,

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Arizona.

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Wait a minute,

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we're not.

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We're not in Fountain Hills.

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Paradise Valley.

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Paradise Valley.

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You just did that to see if you're trying to test our mics.

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It's keeping you on your toes.

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We'll re-record.

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We'll take it out.

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Hello,

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this is Emily Holdaway,

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Courtney Volmering,

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and Matthew Gernstead interviewing Doctor Craig and Ambassador Barbara Barrett

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on February 5,

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2019 at 2:31 p.m. in Paradise Valley,

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Arizona.

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This interview is part of the Barrett Oral History Project.

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Our goal is to preserve a record of

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Barrett's history in honor of her 30th anniversary.

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So thank you,

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uh,

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first of all,

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so much for taking the time to sit down with us and share your experience.

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We will be breaking this interview down in 3 chronologically arranged parts,

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personal history,

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the beginnings of Barrett the Honors College,

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and the future of the college as Doctor and Ambassador Barrett see it.

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Emily,

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Courtney,

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and I will each ask questions from one section.

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We'll begin with personal history.

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For both of you.

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What were your own experiences as college students like?

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Can you identify any programs or perhaps services from

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those experiences that inspired what Barrett has become today?

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my personal experience was to go to Arizona State University.

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there's a bit of overlap,

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and there's something very close to what

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has become the honors program at ASU.

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When I was admitted to ASU

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on the admission document it said something

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honors at entrance.

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I noticed that,

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but that's the only time I ever

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from it,

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just that it was on the document.

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or at least there was none that I was ever further informed about.

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But so there was something that got us as far as honors at entrance,

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but it didn't mean anything so far as classes were concerned

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that I ever knew

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subsequently.

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was at ASU,

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had that recognition of something called honors,

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didn't know anything more about it.

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we recognize that

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the honors program is something that brings a great deal of

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opportunity for students.

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to us at least having

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an understanding of honors.

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unfortunately beaten ASU several times in football recently.

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effectively didn't have an honors undergraduate program.

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at the time I attended

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the university,

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so 1500 freshmen were pretty much,

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academic achievers from the standpoint that getting into Stanford.

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it was not as difficult at that time as it is today,

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someone made a mistake and let me in.

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the thing that I recognized,

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undergraduate university

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education

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is that it really is a key that opens all doors,

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we were both fortunate enough to be able to attend the university on

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basis of scholarships

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that others provided and.

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neither of us really had the financial means to,

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attend a university without that

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financial help.

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perhaps in turnaround basis is to,

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in our

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later years when we're capable of giving something back,

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we've chosen to support education first and foremost

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for other people who were in a position like we were.

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continuing along this theme of the importance of education

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and your history with ASU in particular,

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Ambassador Barrett.

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On your profile for the Horatio Alger Association of Distinguished Americans.

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Education is the key to success.

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It is the first major decision a young person must make and the most important.

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You came to Arizona for college and then made your life and career here.

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why you chose ASU first of all,

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and to what extent ASU fueled your extraordinary professional success?

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I came to ASU because my father had been a cowboy

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especially in Arizona,

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and I wanted to see this place that he had spoken so highly of.

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when your kids get old enough,

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I want to take you to Arizona.

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He died before he could do that,

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there's a way I can see Arizona

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and at the same time get that college education he knew was so important that he had,

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he didn't have one.

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there weren't such things as online references,

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so I wrote to each of the three major universities and ASU had the prettiest catalog.

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because of the quality of the catalog,

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and that would be counterpart to the quality of the website today,

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but I came to ASU not knowing

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nearly enough to make a good decision,

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but it was a great decision,

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as it turned out.

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so it was accidental that I happened to get to ASU,

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fortuitous in the long run.

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to go to Arizona State University.

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The impact on my life has been

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transformational

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in that it is the education

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that did turn the key

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to open doors to many opportunities in my life,

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many of those

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have been so very rewarding.

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it important to give back.

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also for Ambassador Barrett,

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your Horatio bio further states

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that you drove,

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for a total of 240 miles round trip to finish your master's degree at ASU.

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thinking about that,

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can you tell us more about that experience

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and the challenges you had to overcome while you were obtaining your master's?

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benefit to me in the long run,

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master's in

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the time public administration.

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public administration was willing to work with me.

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international business experience or education as I could.

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but public administration was,

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so I took as many business courses,

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and political science courses as I could

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to get that master's degree.

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And for uh Doctor Barrett.

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Can you tell us about your experiences as

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an undergraduate that sparked your passion for technology

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and more specifically how those experiences informed your leadership at Intel?

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and my senior year in high school.

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Crawford came to me one day,

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you're good at math.

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And I told him I couldn't possibly afford to go to Stanford.

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Exorbitantly expensive at that time.

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Tuition was $250 a quarter at that time,

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but

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that was a lot of money

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in 1957.

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Anyway,

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long story short,

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I filled out the application.

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I knew Stanford did not have a forestry department,

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so I needed to major in something else,

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and

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there was a prospective major in the application form.

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I

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elbowed my good friend Tom Hessler sitting next to me.

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He was going to San Jose State University.

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I said,

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Tom,

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what are you going to major in?

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And he said,

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metallurgical engineering.

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I kind of said,

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what's that?

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And he said that has something to do with metals.

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And I said,

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OK,

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sounds like a pretty good major.

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How many L's are there in metallurgical?

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So I wrote down metallurgical engineering.

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Turns out I got it.

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I was probably the only prospective freshman.

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Applying to Stanford to major in metallurgical engineering,

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they had an undergraduate scholarship.

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I received that scholarship

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and I was able to attend,

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uh,

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but

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Uh,

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not

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majoring in my

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lifelong desire of forestry,

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majoring in engineering.

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And Silicon Valley

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as a

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site or as a place,

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as an entity was just starting at that time

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and it was filled with technology and opportunity and

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Sputnik was also just going up at that time and so the US was

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uh

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engaged in a

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hurry up program in terms of

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space research.

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Materials were a big part of that.

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Biological engineering became material science.

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And also

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this integrated circuit was just being

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established at that time.

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So it,

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it was a hotbed of technology both at the national to local level,

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and Stanford had a pretty good engineering school,

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so I just got hooked on it.

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And

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Pardon?

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H E S S L E R.

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And then for uh both of you,

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uh,

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which of your many extraordinary professional

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accomplishments give you most pride.

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So I don't find myself

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uh too prideful of

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what I've done,

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but I,

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I do take a lot of joy from

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things that I've worked on or been a part of,

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um,

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I guess

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representing the United States of America

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in a foreign country,

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um,

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really was a great joy.

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Also a big responsibility.

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So I guess serving as ambassador was

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something that I took a great deal of joy in

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the training as an astronaut.

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I took

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great joy

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in

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passing those tests,

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figuring out

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if I could pass those tests and passing them all,

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um,

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that mattered,

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but

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I think

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I,

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I

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found a great.

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Pleasure in

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being a part of

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making things happen in the government and not in government,

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working with the women

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aviators,

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pilots in the Defense Department

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to open the roles so that women could fly fighters and bombers

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which they had previously been allowed to

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fly only up through tankers and transports,

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but not fighters and bombers.

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So working on projects like that,

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working on things.

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that were deemed impossible and then getting them done,

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that's where I take a lot of joy.

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Well,

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3 things come to mind in various stages of my

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professional activities.

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One is,

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uh,

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uh,

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Being an Intel Corporation almost from the start

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and helping to grow that company from a startup to a $50 billion company with a

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major presence here in Arizona

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as the number one

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semiconductor manufacturer in the world.

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Uh,

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the second thing is,

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uh,

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Barbara and I own a,

415
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uh,

416
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resort in Montana,

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and in 2014 that was rated the number one hotel slash resort in the world.

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You see there's a commonality of number ones in here.

419
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And the third thing is,

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uh,

421
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and over the last decade I've been working

422
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in the charter school business and we have a

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series of charter schools,

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uh,

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27 nationwide,

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20.

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Uh,

428
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two of them here in Arizona.

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And last year,

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our charter schools out of 25,000 public high schools were rated 123458,

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and 14 out of 25,000.

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So we're the

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kind of the number one.

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High school educator in the United States.

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So those 3 number 1s I,

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I take great pride in.

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And by the way,

438
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uh,

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when you take pride in those things,

440
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you're really taking pride in.

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The people that you work with and the people that accomplish it,

442
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it,

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it's not so much you're doing,

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but

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it didn't tell it was literally tens of thousands of people

446
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in the charter school business there's,

447
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you know,

448
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1000 teachers and administrators,

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so you,

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you're really

451
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taking great pride in the accomplishments of others that you're a part of.

452
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Well,

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since you brought up a bassist Doctor Barrett,

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I'll flip a question here

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and we'll go directly into this one.

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so in a YouTube video titled,

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uh,

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Craig Barrett on American Public Education reform,

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uh,

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you stated education is the combination of talents and action.

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Um,

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considering this first of all,

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can you tell us what fuels your passion for education?

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Education is,

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uh,

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clearly the key that opens all potential doors

467
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and uh

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if you have a a quality education and passion for what you do,

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there's almost

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unlimited opportunity for you.

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If you don't have that education,

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you're much more limited and there's been

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so much written about this in the press in terms of

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job opportunities,

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earning potential and everything,

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so education is the opportunity that every young child should.

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Get that opportunity whether they take advantage of it or not,

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it's up to them,

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but

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the child should have that opportunity.

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And

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there are 3 basic fundamentals of,

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of a quality education system.

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And by the way,

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this topic has been studied for the last 60 or 70 years.

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There are a number of seminal reports

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published in the United States going back to the 1950s when

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people noticed that public education was slipping.

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They've all said exactly the same thing over that 60 or 70-year time period.

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Good education

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has the foundational pillars of

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great teachers who know their subject material.

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High expectations.

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You are in education.

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Anybody who's been involved in education

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really knows that when

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a professor or teacher tells you how high to jump,

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uh,

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you can jump that high that they put the bar a little higher,

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you

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struggle,

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but you can get a little higher.

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So high expectations,

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it's terribly important.

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And the third thing is accountability.

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Accountability

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on the student side

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for

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working hard and education is hard work to learn the material.

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Hard work on the

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Teacher or professor's side

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because teaching is hard work and hard work on

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the administrators who put all of this stuff together.

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So those three foundations,

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great teachers,

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high expectations,

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and accountability.

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Have been the foundation for every study of education reform

519
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in the United States for 60 or 70 years.

520
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What's happened in 60 or 70 years,

521
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people have commissioned another study to talk about it,

522
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and they found the same thing.

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Great teachers,

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high expectations,

525
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and accountability are important.

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The,

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the system has been amazingly resilient

528
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to change.

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It is just stuck in its own

530
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format.

531
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Uh,

532
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one of the things.

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I noticed immediately though,

534
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in my association with basis schools

535
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and my association with the Honors College,

536
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the Honors College operates on those three foundational principles.

537
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Great teachers.

538
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High expectations and accountability.

539
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And uh you can't succeed in education without those three things.

540
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Can you pinpoint a moment where um

541
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You know,

542
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you realize that.

543
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You could be part of the education reform movement,

544
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make a contribution to it.

545
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Uh,

546
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what specifically happened in your professional or

547
00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:39.609
personal life that might have inspired that?

548
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Well,

549
00:17:40.540 --> 00:17:41.030
that,

550
00:17:41.380 --> 00:17:42.260
my time at Intel,

551
00:17:42.300 --> 00:17:43.119
we were very

552
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interested in math and science education because we're hiring

553
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the best and brightest engineers

554
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and we wanted the

555
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supply of uh

556
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great engineers to be larger.

557
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And so we got involved in K-12 education,

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math and science because that's the foundation

559
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behind university educations.

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And

561
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I was able to participate on 3 or 4 of these seminal studies that I talked about.

562
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And uh we always concluded the same thing,

563
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and we always wrung our hands saying,

564
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well,

565
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we're always saying to do this,

566
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but nobody ever does anything.

567
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Barbara and I

568
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were invited.

569
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Uh,

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roughly a decade ago,

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uh,

572
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to

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visit a basis

574
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school,

575
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school was just starting in Scottsdale,

576
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and I think we

577
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went and sat in an 8th grade math class and an 8th grade chemistry class.

578
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And I was literally blown away.

579
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By the level of the material that was being taught in the 8th grade.

580
00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.390
The competency of the teacher.

581
00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:45.719
And the,

582
00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.469
and the response and performance of the students.

583
00:18:49.479 --> 00:18:50.000
And

584
00:18:50.170 --> 00:18:51.290
I said to myself,

585
00:18:52.329 --> 00:18:52.849
You know,

586
00:18:53.250 --> 00:18:55.310
this is what we've been talking about

587
00:18:55.760 --> 00:18:58.189
as a country for 50 or 60 years.

588
00:18:58.729 --> 00:19:01.349
This is it in real live action.

589
00:19:02.099 --> 00:19:03.170
I want to be part of that.

590
00:19:03.180 --> 00:19:05.239
And so as soon as I retired from Intel I.

591
00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:07.969
I agreed to join the board and.

592
00:19:09.439 --> 00:19:09.959
As would have it,

593
00:19:10.030 --> 00:19:11.280
I went to my first board meeting.

594
00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:12.479
I opened up my board book,

595
00:19:12.489 --> 00:19:13.300
and I saw

596
00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:16.300
the first action item on the board agenda was

597
00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:18.780
to elect me without anyone asking me

598
00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:19.780
to be

599
00:19:20.040 --> 00:19:21.949
president and CEO of this

600
00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:22.400
organization,

601
00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:24.270
and I didn't object.

602
00:19:24.280 --> 00:19:26.040
And so we've been doing it now for about

603
00:19:26.040 --> 00:19:28.760
10 years and I've mentioned the results before.

604
00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:29.839
Results are,

605
00:19:30.189 --> 00:19:31.239
are spectacular.

606
00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:32.400
Uh,

607
00:19:32.479 --> 00:19:33.359
and

608
00:19:33.520 --> 00:19:35.660
what we strive to do again

609
00:19:36.199 --> 00:19:36.979
is to give

610
00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:38.900
as many young

611
00:19:39.219 --> 00:19:42.739
youngsters as possible the opportunity for great education,

612
00:19:43.280 --> 00:19:44.280
the opportunity,

613
00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:45.989
and we can't make them do it.

614
00:19:46.430 --> 00:19:46.880
We're a,

615
00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:47.839
a charter school,

616
00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:49.020
an alternative school.

617
00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:52.500
People have to come and decide they wanna go to basic schools,

618
00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.339
but we make the opportunity available to people and if they

619
00:19:56.719 --> 00:19:57.560
take advantage of it,

620
00:19:57.760 --> 00:20:01.060
they get absolutely the best K-12 education in the world.

621
00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:02.119
Bar none.

622
00:20:02.989 --> 00:20:05.829
One of the things that is kind of fun to see in this

623
00:20:06.030 --> 00:20:07.729
is that on the K-12 level

624
00:20:07.949 --> 00:20:09.250
at base schools,

625
00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:11.609
Arizona is excelling.

626
00:20:11.959 --> 00:20:12.209
The,

627
00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:13.770
the top 5

628
00:20:13.989 --> 00:20:16.530
high schools in America are here in Arizona.

629
00:20:17.209 --> 00:20:17.219
Uh,

630
00:20:17.229 --> 00:20:18.609
out of 25,000,

631
00:20:18.829 --> 00:20:21.050
1 through 5 are Arizona schools.

632
00:20:21.530 --> 00:20:23.680
When it comes to the college level

633
00:20:23.939 --> 00:20:26.989
and we see the honors college being rated the

634
00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:27.459
most,

635
00:20:27.540 --> 00:20:28.560
the gold standard

636
00:20:28.780 --> 00:20:30.140
of honors colleges,

637
00:20:30.150 --> 00:20:30.510
uh,

638
00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:31.979
at the university level,

639
00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:34.459
plus Embry-Riddle is doing a great job.

640
00:20:34.699 --> 00:20:35.699
Other universities,

641
00:20:35.739 --> 00:20:36.260
Grand Canyon,

642
00:20:37.209 --> 00:20:38.119
NAU and the UFA,

643
00:20:38.859 --> 00:20:39.280
uh,

644
00:20:39.500 --> 00:20:40.160
there is great

645
00:20:40.930 --> 00:20:42.089
undergraduate education here,

646
00:20:42.859 --> 00:20:45.839
and Thunderbird has been rated number one in the world on.

647
00:20:46.069 --> 00:20:46.339
Uh,

648
00:20:46.589 --> 00:20:47.160
international management.

649
00:20:47.180 --> 00:20:47.189
So

650
00:20:49.109 --> 00:20:50.089
ASU

651
00:20:50.300 --> 00:20:52.010
is one of

652
00:20:52.709 --> 00:20:53.250
a

653
00:20:53.420 --> 00:20:54.569
plethora of

654
00:20:54.910 --> 00:20:58.150
first-rate Arizona educational institutions.

655
00:20:58.229 --> 00:20:59.770
We sometimes beat ourselves up

656
00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:01.349
about our education,

657
00:21:01.430 --> 00:21:03.430
but in fact we do a great job here.

658
00:21:05.030 --> 00:21:05.589
Before we

659
00:21:05.900 --> 00:21:06.050
continue,

660
00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:08.920
we're gonna stop and restart these cameras.

661
00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:09.640
Um,

662
00:21:09.819 --> 00:21:10.270
they

663
00:21:10.660 --> 00:21:12.280
record for about 20

664
00:21:12.500 --> 00:21:14.060
something minutes and then they will auto shut off,

665
00:21:14.140 --> 00:21:15.699
so this is a way for us to

666
00:21:15.930 --> 00:21:17.359
make sure that we actually

667
00:21:17.699 --> 00:21:18.319
manage that.

668
00:21:18.810 --> 00:21:18.819
Great.

669
00:21:18.900 --> 00:21:19.099
All right,

670
00:21:19.209 --> 00:21:19.949
refresh.

671
00:21:22.729 --> 00:21:23.000
Perfect.

672
00:21:24.339 --> 00:21:28.030
So how would both of you define your leadership philosophies?

673
00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:32.719
What attributes do you think all successful leaders ought to have regardless of

674
00:21:33.219 --> 00:21:35.140
where they happen to work or what their goals might be?

675
00:21:35.170 --> 00:21:35.939
And Ambassador Barrett,

676
00:21:35.979 --> 00:21:36.780
in your case,

677
00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:40.219
I'd be curious to know how your time as ambassador to Finland might have

678
00:21:40.530 --> 00:21:42.020
changed your thoughts on leadership,

679
00:21:42.099 --> 00:21:43.400
your perspective on that issue.

680
00:21:44.829 --> 00:21:45.030
Well,

681
00:21:46.010 --> 00:21:46.020
all,

682
00:21:46.310 --> 00:21:47.300
all leaders,

683
00:21:47.670 --> 00:21:48.709
all quality leaders,

684
00:21:48.790 --> 00:21:48.949
uh,

685
00:21:49.069 --> 00:21:49.650
you'll find

686
00:21:50.109 --> 00:21:51.069
that integrity,

687
00:21:51.310 --> 00:21:52.729
honesty is a key.

688
00:21:53.510 --> 00:21:53.969
You don't,

689
00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:56.219
that's sort of a prerequisite going in.

690
00:21:56.510 --> 00:21:57.280
Without that,

691
00:21:57.310 --> 00:21:58.069
there is nothing.

692
00:21:58.550 --> 00:22:00.530
But respect for others

693
00:22:00.829 --> 00:22:02.050
and respect for the time

694
00:22:02.459 --> 00:22:04.930
of other people is really an essential also

695
00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:06.410
for quality leadership.

696
00:22:06.790 --> 00:22:08.109
Then having a passion

697
00:22:08.270 --> 00:22:10.010
and a goal in mind,

698
00:22:11.390 --> 00:22:12.050
leadership

699
00:22:12.310 --> 00:22:14.089
isn't productive unless there is

700
00:22:14.339 --> 00:22:17.229
a goal intended and a passion that goes behind it.

701
00:22:17.310 --> 00:22:18.930
So I'd say integrity

702
00:22:20.030 --> 00:22:21.410
plus respect

703
00:22:21.790 --> 00:22:23.010
plus a goal

704
00:22:23.469 --> 00:22:24.670
makes up good leadership.

705
00:22:27.150 --> 00:22:28.089
I'd echo

706
00:22:28.579 --> 00:22:30.140
everything that Barbara just said and.

707
00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:33.449
Pulling a little bit from my

708
00:22:33.829 --> 00:22:34.949
engineering background,

709
00:22:35.089 --> 00:22:35.380
uh,

710
00:22:35.859 --> 00:22:38.790
engineering is really an education of solving

711
00:22:39.109 --> 00:22:39.550
problems,

712
00:22:39.630 --> 00:22:40.709
technical problems.

713
00:22:41.410 --> 00:22:44.140
And one of the first things you recognize is

714
00:22:44.540 --> 00:22:47.670
you can't solve a problem unless you can clearly define it,

715
00:22:48.140 --> 00:22:50.920
and the art of problem solving is an issue of

716
00:22:51.300 --> 00:22:55.420
clearly defining the problem and collecting information and a hypothesis and

717
00:22:55.699 --> 00:22:58.790
testing that hypothesis to see if it works to solve the problem.

718
00:22:59.380 --> 00:23:01.130
So I think a

719
00:23:02.140 --> 00:23:03.469
problem solving capability,

720
00:23:03.500 --> 00:23:06.839
and it may be very different in the technical world and in the

721
00:23:07.500 --> 00:23:09.760
political world or the business world.

722
00:23:10.290 --> 00:23:10.859
But

723
00:23:11.140 --> 00:23:12.660
the problems are all there

724
00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:13.959
quite often.

725
00:23:15.229 --> 00:23:16.650
Ineffective leaders get

726
00:23:16.780 --> 00:23:19.349
tied up because they really have not clearly

727
00:23:19.349 --> 00:23:21.209
defined the problem they're trying to solve.

728
00:23:21.229 --> 00:23:22.290
They can't communicate

729
00:23:22.670 --> 00:23:25.780
the problem they're trying to solve to their subordinates and to others.

730
00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:26.670
So that,

731
00:23:26.750 --> 00:23:28.869
that bit of engineering training and

732
00:23:29.270 --> 00:23:30.380
putting a plug in,

733
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:31.770
not against.

734
00:23:32.520 --> 00:23:34.439
Business schools and lawyers and such,

735
00:23:34.560 --> 00:23:34.880
but

736
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:36.540
the most common

737
00:23:37.630 --> 00:23:38.540
educational background

738
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:41.979
of Fortune 500 CEOs happens to be

739
00:23:44.369 --> 00:23:44.670
Come on,

740
00:23:44.810 --> 00:23:45.310
help me out.

741
00:23:45.449 --> 00:23:46.160
Engineering.

742
00:23:48.150 --> 00:23:49.030
So that,

743
00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:50.630
that problem solving capability,

744
00:23:50.670 --> 00:23:51.770
I think is key

745
00:23:52.109 --> 00:23:52.949
to leadership,

746
00:23:53.109 --> 00:23:53.489
but

747
00:23:55.020 --> 00:23:56.000
Integrity,

748
00:23:56.300 --> 00:23:56.739
uh.

749
00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:58.150
Truthfulness,

750
00:23:58.290 --> 00:23:59.430
walking the walk,

751
00:23:59.770 --> 00:24:00.319
uh,

752
00:24:00.329 --> 00:24:03.270
and being part of the solution are absolutely key

753
00:24:03.689 --> 00:24:04.489
to great leadership.

754
00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:06.489
And um,

755
00:24:06.739 --> 00:24:08.739
are there any influential people in your

756
00:24:08.739 --> 00:24:11.550
life who modeled those qualities and perhaps um

757
00:24:13.369 --> 00:24:15.989
Gave you the sense that those are important for leaders to have going

758
00:24:15.989 --> 00:24:19.270
back to perhaps your career as college students or in the professional world.

759
00:24:19.810 --> 00:24:19.819
Well,

760
00:24:19.829 --> 00:24:20.349
I'd say,

761
00:24:20.949 --> 00:24:21.790
let me get this one first,

762
00:24:21.869 --> 00:24:22.150
OK?

763
00:24:24.430 --> 00:24:24.500
um.

764
00:24:26.050 --> 00:24:26.689
First of all,

765
00:24:26.939 --> 00:24:29.469
the person sitting on my left is the most

766
00:24:29.969 --> 00:24:32.329
important example of leadership that I've seen.

767
00:24:32.449 --> 00:24:33.010
Barbara

768
00:24:33.489 --> 00:24:34.810
has an attitude that

769
00:24:35.609 --> 00:24:36.170
Uh,

770
00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:37.890
nothing is impossible,

771
00:24:38.010 --> 00:24:39.800
and nothing is too difficult.

772
00:24:39.810 --> 00:24:40.430
If you

773
00:24:40.719 --> 00:24:44.050
rally the resources and you spend some time thinking about it,

774
00:24:44.290 --> 00:24:46.189
you can accomplish a fantastic amount.

775
00:24:46.569 --> 00:24:47.069
She

776
00:24:47.369 --> 00:24:47.910
sets

777
00:24:48.369 --> 00:24:51.050
super high expectations for herself in every way,

778
00:24:51.130 --> 00:24:51.709
and so I,

779
00:24:52.089 --> 00:24:53.349
I just had to jump in and

780
00:24:53.520 --> 00:24:54.609
say I respect that,

781
00:24:54.650 --> 00:24:56.670
and she's the best role model that I had.

782
00:24:57.530 --> 00:24:57.829
Now any more time.

783
00:25:00.790 --> 00:25:01.130
You know,

784
00:25:01.989 --> 00:25:02.109
I,

785
00:25:02.170 --> 00:25:02.930
I think

786
00:25:03.670 --> 00:25:05.209
your question though probably

787
00:25:05.670 --> 00:25:06.750
deals with

788
00:25:07.709 --> 00:25:11.390
people who are more influential in your life at certain periods of your life.

789
00:25:11.469 --> 00:25:11.890
I mean,

790
00:25:12.229 --> 00:25:13.670
you maybe have a high school teacher,

791
00:25:13.750 --> 00:25:15.310
you maybe have a college professor,

792
00:25:15.369 --> 00:25:16.349
you maybe have a

793
00:25:16.750 --> 00:25:17.869
supervisor at work,

794
00:25:17.930 --> 00:25:19.030
you maybe have someone else,

795
00:25:19.069 --> 00:25:19.569
you may

796
00:25:19.770 --> 00:25:21.449
marry a great spouse,

797
00:25:21.790 --> 00:25:22.140
uh.

798
00:25:22.949 --> 00:25:23.079
You know,

799
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:23.579
I have

800
00:25:23.729 --> 00:25:24.869
my math teacher in,

801
00:25:24.900 --> 00:25:26.359
in high school that I talked about earlier.

802
00:25:26.439 --> 00:25:28.030
I have great respect for and sent me,

803
00:25:28.290 --> 00:25:28.780
and of course,

804
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:29.199
uh.

805
00:25:30.069 --> 00:25:30.199
Uh,

806
00:25:31.050 --> 00:25:32.670
my boss at Intel,

807
00:25:32.790 --> 00:25:33.709
Andy Grove,

808
00:25:33.869 --> 00:25:34.349
was

809
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:36.109
a phenomenal human being,

810
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:37.050
and along with

811
00:25:37.630 --> 00:25:38.900
a couple of the founders of Intel,

812
00:25:38.989 --> 00:25:40.239
Bob Noyce and Gordon Moore,

813
00:25:40.300 --> 00:25:40.790
were just

814
00:25:41.150 --> 00:25:41.739
icons,

815
00:25:41.750 --> 00:25:43.150
and working for them was a

816
00:25:43.310 --> 00:25:45.130
tremendous experience.

817
00:25:45.750 --> 00:25:46.160
But you know,

818
00:25:46.270 --> 00:25:46.630
when

819
00:25:46.979 --> 00:25:47.949
all said and done,

820
00:25:48.270 --> 00:25:50.709
this one has been the most influential on me.

821
00:25:56.170 --> 00:25:56.199
Top that.

822
00:25:59.189 --> 00:25:59.209
No,

823
00:25:59.290 --> 00:26:00.229
I just want you to keep talking.

824
00:26:04.069 --> 00:26:05.729
So that's actually a um

825
00:26:06.020 --> 00:26:09.089
a wonderful transition to the final question of my section.

826
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:10.160
Um,

827
00:26:10.239 --> 00:26:10.359
you know,

828
00:26:10.430 --> 00:26:13.589
obviously the most incredible thing about you both is your,

829
00:26:13.760 --> 00:26:13.920
you know,

830
00:26:13.959 --> 00:26:16.540
dynamic as partners and as donors to

831
00:26:16.800 --> 00:26:17.510
Yonners College,

832
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.020
among other,

833
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:18.229
you know,

834
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:19.420
worthy initiatives.

835
00:26:19.800 --> 00:26:19.959
Um,

836
00:26:20.040 --> 00:26:20.800
how did you two meet?

837
00:26:23.219 --> 00:26:23.459
Go ahead.

838
00:26:24.430 --> 00:26:25.079
How did we meet?

839
00:26:26.390 --> 00:26:27.729
We met on a

840
00:26:28.030 --> 00:26:28.890
typical

841
00:26:29.349 --> 00:26:31.349
July day in Phoenix,

842
00:26:31.430 --> 00:26:31.979
Arizona.

843
00:26:32.069 --> 00:26:32.469
It was

844
00:26:32.660 --> 00:26:33.760
112.

845
00:26:34.670 --> 00:26:37.160
And hiking at that time on the.

846
00:26:38.260 --> 00:26:38.670
Mountain.

847
00:26:40.520 --> 00:26:42.239
Called Squaw Peak at the time,

848
00:26:42.589 --> 00:26:44.209
we named Pasqua Peak.

849
00:26:44.829 --> 00:26:46.709
We were hiking at

850
00:26:47.390 --> 00:26:47.750
the.

851
00:26:48.550 --> 00:26:49.010
Dusk

852
00:26:49.869 --> 00:26:50.530
6 o'clock,

853
00:26:50.670 --> 00:26:52.050
6:30 time frame

854
00:26:52.469 --> 00:26:54.089
we were the only two people on the mountain.

855
00:26:54.609 --> 00:26:54.900
Turns out,

856
00:26:55.869 --> 00:26:56.030
yeah,

857
00:26:56.349 --> 00:26:59.390
112 degrees clears out some of the riffraff and

858
00:26:59.650 --> 00:27:00.170
hiking

859
00:27:00.550 --> 00:27:02.599
and Barbara was up the top first and

860
00:27:03.260 --> 00:27:05.760
And uh I came huffing and puffing up.

861
00:27:06.540 --> 00:27:06.920
Uh,

862
00:27:06.939 --> 00:27:11.660
behind her and uh she was sitting there admiring this gorgeous Arizona sunset and,

863
00:27:12.260 --> 00:27:12.530
and,

864
00:27:12.540 --> 00:27:12.770
uh,

865
00:27:12.780 --> 00:27:14.060
we started to talk and.

866
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:15.719
And uh

867
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:16.579
I just

868
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.010
kept talking and then walked down the mountain.

869
00:27:20.089 --> 00:27:20.439
Uh,

870
00:27:20.650 --> 00:27:21.969
together and uh.

871
00:27:23.260 --> 00:27:25.060
I probably muttered something like,

872
00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:25.339
you know,

873
00:27:25.380 --> 00:27:25.750
like.

874
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:27.790
Really enjoyed talking to you,

875
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:28.680
with you and

876
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:29.199
you know,

877
00:27:29.280 --> 00:27:30.709
maybe we can go get a drink someplace.

878
00:27:30.760 --> 00:27:31.319
And she says,

879
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:31.880
you know,

880
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:33.050
typical engineer,

881
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:33.750
look at yourself,

882
00:27:33.800 --> 00:27:34.979
your pair of shorts and

883
00:27:35.439 --> 00:27:36.829
tennis shoes and t-shirt.

884
00:27:36.979 --> 00:27:36.989
And

885
00:27:37.520 --> 00:27:37.910
she said,

886
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:38.489
uh,

887
00:27:39.530 --> 00:27:40.300
But you know,

888
00:27:40.369 --> 00:27:43.599
I'd like to continue to talk and so she suggested that we

889
00:27:43.890 --> 00:27:47.489
go to an Alpha Beta supermarket in Forty-Fourth and Camelback

890
00:27:47.489 --> 00:27:49.329
and go in to get a couple of soft drinks and

891
00:27:49.530 --> 00:27:50.530
some stone fruit.

892
00:27:51.050 --> 00:27:54.449
There's a bank across the street at that intersection with a fountain,

893
00:27:54.890 --> 00:27:55.880
so we went over there and

894
00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:57.329
took off our shoes and.

895
00:27:58.040 --> 00:28:00.400
Dangle our feet in the fountain and talk for another

896
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.800
3 or 4 hours and ate peaches and nectarines.

897
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:04.920
It's the summer and we had stone,

898
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:05.719
stone fruit,

899
00:28:05.780 --> 00:28:06.390
cherries,

900
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:07.000
peaches,

901
00:28:07.069 --> 00:28:07.550
nectarines,

902
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:08.390
apricots,

903
00:28:08.760 --> 00:28:10.060
and shared life stories.

904
00:28:12.260 --> 00:28:12.930
If I may,

905
00:28:13.099 --> 00:28:13.880
how did you know

906
00:28:14.099 --> 00:28:14.900
that she was the one?

907
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:17.300
So do you wanna

908
00:28:17.930 --> 00:28:20.599
It didn't take long to figure that out.

909
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:21.650
No,

910
00:28:21.829 --> 00:28:22.189
which,

911
00:28:22.310 --> 00:28:22.689
uh.

912
00:28:23.449 --> 00:28:23.770
Uh,

913
00:28:23.849 --> 00:28:24.479
her background,

914
00:28:24.569 --> 00:28:25.489
what she was doing,

915
00:28:25.609 --> 00:28:25.920
uh,

916
00:28:26.170 --> 00:28:27.530
just how she addressed

917
00:28:28.130 --> 00:28:30.790
issues and problems and what she thought was important in life.

918
00:28:31.500 --> 00:28:32.239
It was pretty cool.

919
00:28:33.790 --> 00:28:34.069
Well,

920
00:28:34.310 --> 00:28:34.949
thank you both,

921
00:28:34.959 --> 00:28:37.510
and Emily will now begin the second part of our interview and

922
00:28:37.510 --> 00:28:40.150
ask about what led to your relationship with the Honors College.

923
00:28:42.280 --> 00:28:42.859
Um,

924
00:28:43.349 --> 00:28:44.219
so just,

925
00:28:44.349 --> 00:28:44.670
um,

926
00:28:44.869 --> 00:28:45.390
first off,

927
00:28:45.550 --> 00:28:45.709
um,

928
00:28:45.829 --> 00:28:47.709
what led you both to make the decision to

929
00:28:47.709 --> 00:28:50.420
donate to ASU to make the honors college fair?

930
00:28:52.069 --> 00:28:52.900
It's so funny.

931
00:28:53.150 --> 00:28:55.209
We had no idea it was going to be the Barrett,

932
00:28:55.219 --> 00:28:56.150
the Honors College.

933
00:28:56.709 --> 00:29:00.089
We donated because we thought that the honors mission

934
00:29:00.790 --> 00:29:01.510
was important.

935
00:29:01.630 --> 00:29:05.869
We were both involved with a variety of the colleges on campus,

936
00:29:06.280 --> 00:29:06.930
and

937
00:29:07.270 --> 00:29:08.930
we noticed that the honors college

938
00:29:09.949 --> 00:29:13.160
there were goals for each college on how much they were supposed to

939
00:29:13.510 --> 00:29:14.060
target for

940
00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:16.760
donations during a capital campaign,

941
00:29:16.989 --> 00:29:18.890
and the honors college had almost none.

942
00:29:19.329 --> 00:29:20.180
Um,

943
00:29:20.219 --> 00:29:22.040
was very low on their goals

944
00:29:22.459 --> 00:29:23.319
that we thought

945
00:29:23.420 --> 00:29:25.280
the honors college is what will dictate

946
00:29:25.280 --> 00:29:28.500
the future reputation for Arizona State University,

947
00:29:28.900 --> 00:29:30.800
so we made an aggressive for us,

948
00:29:31.500 --> 00:29:32.319
a stretch

949
00:29:32.660 --> 00:29:33.579
donation,

950
00:29:33.939 --> 00:29:34.329
um,

951
00:29:34.540 --> 00:29:36.040
to the honors college

952
00:29:36.819 --> 00:29:40.280
instead of to piecemeal to the various colleges that we were involved with,

953
00:29:40.780 --> 00:29:42.020
and we had no

954
00:29:42.410 --> 00:29:44.319
expectation it was going to be renamed,

955
00:29:44.699 --> 00:29:45.229
um,

956
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:45.689
and,

957
00:29:45.780 --> 00:29:46.359
and

958
00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:47.199
in fact.

959
00:29:48.520 --> 00:29:48.849
We,

960
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:49.589
um,

961
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:50.229
we,

962
00:29:50.530 --> 00:29:54.180
that was not at all anything we had considered or discussed or thought,

963
00:29:54.479 --> 00:29:54.849
um,

964
00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:55.260
but

965
00:29:55.979 --> 00:29:59.979
We got a call from the then president asking when could we meet with him,

966
00:30:00.099 --> 00:30:02.800
when could we together meet with him and his wife.

967
00:30:04.310 --> 00:30:05.260
And so

968
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:06.739
we found a time

969
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:08.800
when I was changing planes at the airport.

970
00:30:08.949 --> 00:30:10.400
Craig was going to meet me at the airport.

971
00:30:10.520 --> 00:30:11.619
We were going to go together

972
00:30:11.800 --> 00:30:13.540
to whatever our next destination was.

973
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:14.439
And so I said,

974
00:30:14.469 --> 00:30:17.640
we're going to be at the airport together for 20 minutes while I change planes,

975
00:30:17.650 --> 00:30:19.800
and Craig is going to get on the same flight.

976
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:20.439
So

977
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:22.839
Lady Corps and Elvacore came to the airport.

978
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:24.750
It was before TSA restricted.

979
00:30:24.790 --> 00:30:25.880
They came to our gate

980
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:26.939
and said

981
00:30:27.239 --> 00:30:27.589
the door,

982
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.540
the Board of Regents has voted.

983
00:30:29.939 --> 00:30:31.439
To rename the college

984
00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:32.369
in our name.

985
00:30:32.729 --> 00:30:32.739
We,

986
00:30:33.459 --> 00:30:34.199
we were so

987
00:30:34.579 --> 00:30:35.500
stunned by it.

988
00:30:35.579 --> 00:30:37.199
We stood there and started to cry.

989
00:30:37.780 --> 00:30:38.800
They started to cry.

990
00:30:39.250 --> 00:30:39.619
KJ,

991
00:30:39.699 --> 00:30:41.579
the one of the basketball players for the

992
00:30:41.579 --> 00:30:44.339
Phoenix Suns and subsequently mayor of Sacramento,

993
00:30:44.619 --> 00:30:44.780
came,

994
00:30:44.900 --> 00:30:46.099
got off a plane and saw.

995
00:30:46.405 --> 00:30:47.005
Knew us

996
00:30:47.185 --> 00:30:50.594
and saw us all standing crying and was wondering what was going on.

997
00:30:51.135 --> 00:30:55.844
So just as representative we didn't make a donation with any expectation

998
00:30:56.025 --> 00:30:57.545
that there would be a name change.

999
00:30:57.704 --> 00:31:00.724
It was completely a stunning surprise

1000
00:31:01.045 --> 00:31:02.265
and um

1001
00:31:02.425 --> 00:31:02.854
and

1002
00:31:03.385 --> 00:31:04.204
we were asked

1003
00:31:04.354 --> 00:31:07.854
that if they would allow us to name the honors college that

1004
00:31:07.984 --> 00:31:10.005
that might help inspire others

1005
00:31:10.265 --> 00:31:13.525
to make donations to the university and we hope that it has.

1006
00:31:14.040 --> 00:31:16.530
But it has been a great source of joy for us

1007
00:31:16.760 --> 00:31:18.660
to have our name on a college

1008
00:31:18.989 --> 00:31:21.199
that has such extraordinary students,

1009
00:31:21.280 --> 00:31:22.869
faculty and administration.

1010
00:31:23.239 --> 00:31:23.630
So

1011
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:25.459
the joy continues

1012
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:27.839
beyond that tearful moment at the airport.

1013
00:31:28.380 --> 00:31:29.160
We were

1014
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:30.920
very impressed at the time.

1015
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:32.579
Ted Humphreys was the

1016
00:31:33.199 --> 00:31:35.300
dean of the Honors College and

1017
00:31:36.219 --> 00:31:36.640
Uh,

1018
00:31:36.819 --> 00:31:38.979
very impressed with what Dean Humphreys had done

1019
00:31:38.979 --> 00:31:41.229
and Lattie Kor was president at that time.

1020
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:42.270
Uh,

1021
00:31:42.349 --> 00:31:43.479
it was a good friend of ours,

1022
00:31:43.520 --> 00:31:45.819
and we were impressed that Laddie was

1023
00:31:46.280 --> 00:31:46.699
so,

1024
00:31:46.760 --> 00:31:47.180
uh.

1025
00:31:47.810 --> 00:31:49.430
Actively supporting

1026
00:31:49.890 --> 00:31:51.849
the goals of the honors college and

1027
00:31:52.410 --> 00:31:52.810
the.

1028
00:31:54.180 --> 00:31:54.290
We,

1029
00:31:54.380 --> 00:31:55.780
we made the decision really,

1030
00:31:55.900 --> 00:31:58.150
we were going to have dinner with Lottie and Elvacore

1031
00:31:58.979 --> 00:31:59.989
at their home in

1032
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.619
South Phoenix and we were on the way down driving,

1033
00:32:03.660 --> 00:32:06.290
it took us about 30 minutes to drive and

1034
00:32:06.869 --> 00:32:06.880
And

1035
00:32:07.550 --> 00:32:08.589
we had already made a,

1036
00:32:08.790 --> 00:32:10.089
a smallish commitment

1037
00:32:10.829 --> 00:32:12.459
to the Capitol campaign and we

1038
00:32:13.459 --> 00:32:14.050
Uh,

1039
00:32:14.619 --> 00:32:15.780
we hadn't had anything to drink,

1040
00:32:15.859 --> 00:32:16.979
so I can't blame it on that.

1041
00:32:17.060 --> 00:32:17.500
But,

1042
00:32:18.260 --> 00:32:18.699
but we,

1043
00:32:18.739 --> 00:32:18.849
uh,

1044
00:32:18.859 --> 00:32:20.260
on the way down driving,

1045
00:32:20.300 --> 00:32:20.739
we decided,

1046
00:32:20.829 --> 00:32:20.979
well,

1047
00:32:21.250 --> 00:32:21.579
let's,

1048
00:32:21.699 --> 00:32:22.959
let's make a major gift,

1049
00:32:22.989 --> 00:32:23.410
uh,

1050
00:32:23.900 --> 00:32:24.660
and let's,

1051
00:32:24.780 --> 00:32:24.959
uh,

1052
00:32:25.099 --> 00:32:26.250
let's really help out.

1053
00:32:27.729 --> 00:32:29.910
central core part of the

1054
00:32:30.339 --> 00:32:32.109
university insofar as

1055
00:32:32.329 --> 00:32:34.469
the president of the university is concerned and

1056
00:32:34.729 --> 00:32:36.209
Dean Humphries was concerned.

1057
00:32:36.859 --> 00:32:37.569
And uh

1058
00:32:38.540 --> 00:32:38.939
And I,

1059
00:32:39.020 --> 00:32:41.160
I guess the last person that cried was

1060
00:32:41.459 --> 00:32:42.359
when Laddie told

1061
00:32:43.260 --> 00:32:43.859
Ted Humphries,

1062
00:32:44.060 --> 00:32:46.859
he called him in his office and told him about the donation.

1063
00:32:47.420 --> 00:32:48.579
Ted broke down in tears.

1064
00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:49.099
So I mean,

1065
00:32:49.380 --> 00:32:50.459
everybody associated with it

1066
00:32:51.020 --> 00:32:51.829
was crying.

1067
00:32:52.540 --> 00:32:54.880
We were impressed with what Dean Humphrey had done

1068
00:32:55.020 --> 00:32:58.839
and uh the caliber of students that were being recruited

1069
00:32:59.260 --> 00:33:00.819
and the outcome that was being produced,

1070
00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:02.760
the significance of the program.

1071
00:33:03.219 --> 00:33:03.540
So,

1072
00:33:03.699 --> 00:33:05.459
and it's just gotten better since then.

1073
00:33:06.709 --> 00:33:07.770
Did it take a little bit getting used to having

1074
00:33:09.530 --> 00:33:10.439
a college named after you like,

1075
00:33:10.489 --> 00:33:10.619
hey,

1076
00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:11.180
I go to.

1077
00:33:11.530 --> 00:33:12.609
Was that like weird at all?

1078
00:33:13.390 --> 00:33:16.219
I still refer to it as the honors college because I can,

1079
00:33:16.369 --> 00:33:17.089
I can't,

1080
00:33:17.130 --> 00:33:17.550
uh,

1081
00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:18.709
come to think of

1082
00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:20.150
that name,

1083
00:33:20.609 --> 00:33:20.729
uh,

1084
00:33:20.810 --> 00:33:22.069
which I associate with

1085
00:33:22.209 --> 00:33:22.839
the name,

1086
00:33:23.170 --> 00:33:23.410
but not,

1087
00:33:23.569 --> 00:33:24.089
but it's,

1088
00:33:24.209 --> 00:33:24.869
it's hard

1089
00:33:25.770 --> 00:33:26.180
still.

1090
00:33:26.420 --> 00:33:26.680
It's,

1091
00:33:26.729 --> 00:33:29.329
it's also a great motivation to behave yourself when

1092
00:33:29.329 --> 00:33:32.069
something's named after you in a public sense.

1093
00:33:34.540 --> 00:33:34.829
At the,

1094
00:33:34.910 --> 00:33:36.290
at the naming ceremony,

1095
00:33:36.670 --> 00:33:37.130
we said,

1096
00:33:37.390 --> 00:33:39.989
normally you name things after people that have died and we

1097
00:33:39.989 --> 00:33:42.630
don't have any plans along those lines in the near future,

1098
00:33:42.790 --> 00:33:43.089
so

1099
00:33:43.430 --> 00:33:45.469
that's been almost 20 years now.

1100
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:47.599
Um,

1101
00:33:47.760 --> 00:33:51.000
so what drives you to continue donating to new programs in?

1102
00:33:53.339 --> 00:33:53.699
Well,

1103
00:33:53.939 --> 00:33:54.520
the

1104
00:33:55.219 --> 00:33:56.449
Honors College has

1105
00:33:57.939 --> 00:33:59.000
grown in

1106
00:33:59.500 --> 00:34:01.319
the last two decades,

1107
00:34:01.939 --> 00:34:02.410
uh,

1108
00:34:02.699 --> 00:34:03.619
very substantially.

1109
00:34:03.819 --> 00:34:03.859
It,

1110
00:34:03.939 --> 00:34:04.880
it is the,

1111
00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:06.739
truly the academic heart.

1112
00:34:07.479 --> 00:34:10.030
Of the largest public university in the United States.

1113
00:34:10.978 --> 00:34:11.618
Um,

1114
00:34:11.858 --> 00:34:16.358
it is the same size student-wise as

1115
00:34:17.059 --> 00:34:18.239
the premier

1116
00:34:18.418 --> 00:34:20.217
private universities in the United States.

1117
00:34:20.688 --> 00:34:21.259
You take

1118
00:34:21.579 --> 00:34:22.039
Stanford,

1119
00:34:22.178 --> 00:34:22.418
Yale,

1120
00:34:22.529 --> 00:34:22.898
Harvard,

1121
00:34:22.978 --> 00:34:23.418
Princeton,

1122
00:34:23.498 --> 00:34:23.739
Brown,

1123
00:34:23.819 --> 00:34:24.618
any of these

1124
00:34:25.059 --> 00:34:25.299
schools.

1125
00:34:25.349 --> 00:34:25.549
Uh,

1126
00:34:25.697 --> 00:34:29.388
the honors college is the same size as the undergraduate population

1127
00:34:30.329 --> 00:34:31.678
of those universities

1128
00:34:31.978 --> 00:34:34.079
with essentially the same academic

1129
00:34:34.339 --> 00:34:34.989
standards.

1130
00:34:35.899 --> 00:34:37.489
So it has uh.

1131
00:34:38.100 --> 00:34:39.290
It has blossomed.

1132
00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:42.020
It has continued to improve and get better.

1133
00:34:42.967 --> 00:34:44.049
And frankly,

1134
00:34:44.168 --> 00:34:44.768
we get.

1135
00:34:45.899 --> 00:34:47.080
Super hyped up,

1136
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:47.688
uh,

1137
00:34:47.699 --> 00:34:50.320
the two graduation ceremonies a year,

1138
00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:51.629
the winter and,

1139
00:34:51.739 --> 00:34:52.918
and the spring

1140
00:34:53.179 --> 00:34:55.040
graduation ceremonies that we

1141
00:34:55.790 --> 00:34:56.879
Try to attend them

1142
00:34:57.300 --> 00:34:58.280
and uh

1143
00:34:58.739 --> 00:34:59.800
especially in the

1144
00:35:00.219 --> 00:35:02.360
winter graduation ceremony where

1145
00:35:02.659 --> 00:35:05.159
we had time to shake the hands of each graduate and

1146
00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:06.409
Kind of.

1147
00:35:07.379 --> 00:35:09.040
You have 10 seconds to

1148
00:35:09.419 --> 00:35:13.919
what are you gonna do next and blah blah blah and and congratulations and we're just

1149
00:35:14.419 --> 00:35:15.320
super hyped up

1150
00:35:16.060 --> 00:35:18.060
at the end of that by the quality of the

1151
00:35:18.060 --> 00:35:21.000
of the students that we've met during the graduation program

1152
00:35:21.419 --> 00:35:23.719
and we obviously interface with uh

1153
00:35:23.939 --> 00:35:24.500
Mark Jacobs,

1154
00:35:24.540 --> 00:35:25.520
the current dean,

1155
00:35:26.020 --> 00:35:29.199
quite a bit and go to some of the poster sessions for the

1156
00:35:29.699 --> 00:35:30.919
research projects and

1157
00:35:31.179 --> 00:35:31.899
are just

1158
00:35:32.419 --> 00:35:36.699
super enthused about the quality of the education and as Barbara pointed out.

1159
00:35:37.399 --> 00:35:38.590
Arizona is not.

1160
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.350
Highly thought of education-wise

1161
00:35:43.610 --> 00:35:44.629
in the United States.

1162
00:35:45.489 --> 00:35:46.510
But uh

1163
00:35:46.929 --> 00:35:49.870
the honors college is clearly the number one honors college.

1164
00:35:50.699 --> 00:35:53.620
In the United States and is recognized by just

1165
00:35:54.100 --> 00:35:55.439
essentially everyone with that.

1166
00:35:55.860 --> 00:35:57.139
And so we just

1167
00:35:57.340 --> 00:35:58.320
are thrilled

1168
00:35:58.810 --> 00:36:00.189
with the result and

1169
00:36:01.129 --> 00:36:03.250
Continue to be thrilled by the interaction with the

1170
00:36:03.250 --> 00:36:05.129
students and all the good things going on.

1171
00:36:06.399 --> 00:36:08.979
Each student that crosses that stage

1172
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:11.860
gives us extraordinary joy

1173
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:13.020
at seeing

1174
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.379
and hearing even just a snippet of what they plan

1175
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:17.260
next,

1176
00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:18.800
whether they're

1177
00:36:19.050 --> 00:36:20.760
going immediately into the workforce or

1178
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.820
going immediately into graduate school or taking

1179
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:24.149
a gap year,

1180
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:26.659
and when we hear

1181
00:36:26.959 --> 00:36:28.479
the thesis topics that they're doing,

1182
00:36:28.520 --> 00:36:29.979
it's really quite remarkable

1183
00:36:30.350 --> 00:36:33.040
to see what the what these young people are accomplishing.

1184
00:36:33.459 --> 00:36:35.719
You ask why we continue to invest.

1185
00:36:36.179 --> 00:36:37.760
We think it's a great program,

1186
00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:38.739
but

1187
00:36:38.979 --> 00:36:40.399
like the world is changing,

1188
00:36:40.820 --> 00:36:46.520
and we want to provide some opportunities for the school to change with it.

1189
00:36:46.780 --> 00:36:47.510
And

1190
00:36:47.659 --> 00:36:48.639
as we see

1191
00:36:49.100 --> 00:36:53.439
honors colleges and other top universities across the country emulate

1192
00:36:53.820 --> 00:36:55.699
what the honors college is doing now,

1193
00:36:56.060 --> 00:36:59.399
we have to keep moving forward in order to retain the leadership role

1194
00:36:59.580 --> 00:37:01.189
that the honors college has had.

1195
00:37:01.530 --> 00:37:02.919
And we recently

1196
00:37:03.020 --> 00:37:04.360
um funded the

1197
00:37:04.739 --> 00:37:05.360
idea of

1198
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:06.790
an enhanced

1199
00:37:07.300 --> 00:37:10.120
global engagement side of the curriculum

1200
00:37:10.379 --> 00:37:11.820
and with that we've

1201
00:37:11.979 --> 00:37:13.080
worked to bring

1202
00:37:13.419 --> 00:37:14.500
um in

1203
00:37:14.739 --> 00:37:16.320
lecturers and speakers,

1204
00:37:16.510 --> 00:37:17.050
uh,

1205
00:37:17.060 --> 00:37:19.050
people like Condoleezza Rice or.

1206
00:37:20.050 --> 00:37:21.350
President Vera Freiberger,

1207
00:37:21.669 --> 00:37:22.780
the former president,

1208
00:37:22.939 --> 00:37:24.679
first woman president of any of the

1209
00:37:24.979 --> 00:37:25.879
former Soviet

1210
00:37:26.139 --> 00:37:26.800
nations,

1211
00:37:26.889 --> 00:37:27.040
uh,

1212
00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:28.260
to live on campus,

1213
00:37:28.340 --> 00:37:30.800
Vera Freiberger was president of Latvia,

1214
00:37:31.179 --> 00:37:31.879
and we mentioned,

1215
00:37:32.100 --> 00:37:32.290
uh,

1216
00:37:32.379 --> 00:37:34.719
the former defense minister of Finland

1217
00:37:35.010 --> 00:37:36.000
having people

1218
00:37:36.179 --> 00:37:36.800
like that,

1219
00:37:36.939 --> 00:37:37.659
and I've mentioned

1220
00:37:37.899 --> 00:37:39.580
the ones I've mentioned have all been women.

1221
00:37:39.699 --> 00:37:40.149
I

1222
00:37:40.899 --> 00:37:41.379
Notice,

1223
00:37:41.659 --> 00:37:42.159
um,

1224
00:37:42.340 --> 00:37:43.500
but also Katie Coleman,

1225
00:37:43.540 --> 00:37:44.340
the astronaut

1226
00:37:44.620 --> 00:37:45.360
friends and,

1227
00:37:45.580 --> 00:37:45.899
uh,

1228
00:37:45.979 --> 00:37:47.139
to have people like that,

1229
00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:49.159
role models like that come on campus

1230
00:37:49.500 --> 00:37:51.719
are part of what we think helps to enrich

1231
00:37:52.020 --> 00:37:53.439
the experience

1232
00:37:53.659 --> 00:37:55.399
that a small school like

1233
00:37:55.659 --> 00:37:59.800
the honors college inside the mega university of Arizona State University,

1234
00:38:00.379 --> 00:38:00.800
um,

1235
00:38:01.379 --> 00:38:01.610
we,

1236
00:38:01.780 --> 00:38:02.120
we're

1237
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:03.870
delighted to continue to fund

1238
00:38:04.139 --> 00:38:05.840
some of those kinds of enhancements

1239
00:38:05.979 --> 00:38:07.040
to keep the lead

1240
00:38:07.449 --> 00:38:09.989
that the gold standard has had in the past.

1241
00:38:11.060 --> 00:38:11.409
And I,

1242
00:38:11.530 --> 00:38:12.570
I think it's really,

1243
00:38:12.580 --> 00:38:13.030
uh,

1244
00:38:13.770 --> 00:38:15.669
significant that if you look at the

1245
00:38:16.090 --> 00:38:18.189
distribution of students in

1246
00:38:18.330 --> 00:38:19.709
the honors college that it

1247
00:38:20.850 --> 00:38:21.550
It's

1248
00:38:21.830 --> 00:38:23.300
a mixture of

1249
00:38:23.570 --> 00:38:24.370
science students,

1250
00:38:24.610 --> 00:38:25.530
engineering students,

1251
00:38:25.649 --> 00:38:26.530
business students,

1252
00:38:26.689 --> 00:38:27.270
social

1253
00:38:27.479 --> 00:38:28.129
science students.

1254
00:38:28.209 --> 00:38:28.370
I mean,

1255
00:38:28.409 --> 00:38:28.909
it's a

1256
00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:30.310
great spectrum

1257
00:38:30.689 --> 00:38:31.449
of bright,

1258
00:38:31.530 --> 00:38:32.699
bright young people,

1259
00:38:32.929 --> 00:38:33.429
uh,

1260
00:38:33.810 --> 00:38:34.659
getting together

1261
00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:35.449
and

1262
00:38:36.189 --> 00:38:36.639
Again,

1263
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.149
when you go back to the,

1264
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:40.199
the fundamentals of a great education,

1265
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:40.919
you know,

1266
00:38:41.110 --> 00:38:42.659
high standards and.

1267
00:38:43.469 --> 00:38:43.669
Uh,

1268
00:38:43.909 --> 00:38:44.719
accountability,

1269
00:38:44.860 --> 00:38:45.139
and,

1270
00:38:45.149 --> 00:38:47.590
and that's exactly what we see at the Honors College.

1271
00:38:50.919 --> 00:38:52.469
You overseen various development?

1272
00:38:53.219 --> 00:38:54.000
18 years

1273
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:55.600
What major decision

1274
00:39:02.770 --> 00:39:02.780
You

1275
00:39:03.310 --> 00:39:03.449
know,

1276
00:39:03.530 --> 00:39:04.270
we have

1277
00:39:04.610 --> 00:39:06.070
absolute great

1278
00:39:06.399 --> 00:39:09.149
confidence in the leadership

1279
00:39:09.250 --> 00:39:11.139
of Arizona State University and

1280
00:39:11.830 --> 00:39:12.209
Uh,

1281
00:39:12.310 --> 00:39:13.209
lattie Cour.

1282
00:39:14.300 --> 00:39:14.979
As president,

1283
00:39:15.020 --> 00:39:16.850
when we got involved with the Honors College,

1284
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:17.989
had a

1285
00:39:18.459 --> 00:39:20.620
very soft spot in his heart for the Honors

1286
00:39:20.620 --> 00:39:22.870
College and thought it was super important to ASU.

1287
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:23.649
Uh,

1288
00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:24.500
Michael Crowe,

1289
00:39:24.540 --> 00:39:25.540
as soon as he

1290
00:39:26.100 --> 00:39:27.149
arrived on the scene.

1291
00:39:28.020 --> 00:39:29.050
Following Laddie's,

1292
00:39:29.060 --> 00:39:29.459
uh,

1293
00:39:29.820 --> 00:39:30.600
presidency,

1294
00:39:31.100 --> 00:39:31.399
uh,

1295
00:39:31.459 --> 00:39:35.770
announced that he saw the Honors College as the academic heart

1296
00:39:36.260 --> 00:39:37.659
of ASU and that

1297
00:39:38.060 --> 00:39:39.770
what you could have is a,

1298
00:39:40.179 --> 00:39:41.719
just a phenomenal.

1299
00:39:42.459 --> 00:39:42.469
Uh,

1300
00:39:42.939 --> 00:39:45.959
academically oriented portion of the university.

1301
00:39:46.729 --> 00:39:47.080
And,

1302
00:39:47.169 --> 00:39:49.750
but not as a small isolated Ivy League school

1303
00:39:50.370 --> 00:39:52.659
but is uh embedded within a

1304
00:39:52.870 --> 00:39:54.550
essentially a 100,000 person

1305
00:39:55.129 --> 00:39:56.750
major public university.

1306
00:39:57.209 --> 00:39:57.949
And so we've,

1307
00:39:58.090 --> 00:39:58.639
we have,

1308
00:39:58.649 --> 00:39:59.050
uh.

1309
00:39:59.689 --> 00:40:00.229
Uh

1310
00:40:01.120 --> 00:40:02.629
Played some role in in,

1311
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.139
as Barbara mentioned in the.

1312
00:40:05.189 --> 00:40:07.830
International opportunities and then the

1313
00:40:08.389 --> 00:40:11.830
kind of the Washington DC outpost for ASU and

1314
00:40:12.149 --> 00:40:12.590
such things,

1315
00:40:12.669 --> 00:40:13.030
but,

1316
00:40:13.350 --> 00:40:13.709
uh,

1317
00:40:14.770 --> 00:40:18.229
We really rely on the academic professionals.

1318
00:40:19.530 --> 00:40:21.719
Dean Jacobs and his staff and

1319
00:40:22.409 --> 00:40:23.770
Michael Crow and his staff.

1320
00:40:24.540 --> 00:40:25.439
To direct,

1321
00:40:26.139 --> 00:40:26.449
uh,

1322
00:40:26.459 --> 00:40:29.560
the academic operations of the Honors College,

1323
00:40:30.110 --> 00:40:30.219
uh,

1324
00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:30.500
you know,

1325
00:40:30.580 --> 00:40:30.939
we can,

1326
00:40:31.060 --> 00:40:31.820
we can say.

1327
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:33.260
Uh,

1328
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:33.679
you know,

1329
00:40:33.870 --> 00:40:34.919
you might think about this,

1330
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:35.959
you might think about that,

1331
00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:37.959
but we leave the direction to the professionals.

1332
00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:38.969
Yeah,

1333
00:40:39.020 --> 00:40:40.679
I'd say we don't provide oversight.

1334
00:40:40.899 --> 00:40:41.020
They,

1335
00:40:41.139 --> 00:40:41.300
they,

1336
00:40:41.449 --> 00:40:42.040
they do,

1337
00:40:42.139 --> 00:40:43.620
and the Board of Regents and the,

1338
00:40:43.659 --> 00:40:44.840
and the president

1339
00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:45.879
provide oversight.

1340
00:40:46.219 --> 00:40:49.610
What we do on occasion is provide resources or provide access,

1341
00:40:50.860 --> 00:40:51.260
um,

1342
00:40:51.459 --> 00:40:53.899
but it's entirely at the options of the,

1343
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:55.820
of the college to

1344
00:40:56.179 --> 00:40:57.699
use or not any of those.

1345
00:40:58.709 --> 00:40:59.020
By the way,

1346
00:40:59.070 --> 00:41:00.570
we do provide a ton of

1347
00:41:00.909 --> 00:41:03.989
high school students because a whole lot of basis graduates

1348
00:41:04.550 --> 00:41:06.649
end up going to the honors college.

1349
00:41:09.149 --> 00:41:09.459
Um,

1350
00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:11.379
what has been your proudest moment with the art?

1351
00:41:13.139 --> 00:41:15.139
I say every student that crosses the stage and

1352
00:41:15.139 --> 00:41:17.290
when we get the privilege of shaking their hands,

1353
00:41:17.580 --> 00:41:19.719
that's for me a really great joy.

1354
00:41:20.060 --> 00:41:20.080
Um,

1355
00:41:20.939 --> 00:41:21.439
so

1356
00:41:21.939 --> 00:41:22.659
we love every,

1357
00:41:22.739 --> 00:41:24.699
every occasion we have to have contact.

1358
00:41:25.010 --> 00:41:25.860
We're not underfoot.

1359
00:41:25.939 --> 00:41:28.649
We don't come over uninvited to campus,

1360
00:41:28.699 --> 00:41:29.000
but

1361
00:41:29.179 --> 00:41:30.239
when we are there,

1362
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:30.679
uh,

1363
00:41:31.219 --> 00:41:34.679
just meeting the students and seeing what they've achieved

1364
00:41:34.860 --> 00:41:36.110
and will be achieving,

1365
00:41:36.899 --> 00:41:37.479
those are

1366
00:41:37.699 --> 00:41:39.100
great sources of joy for us.

1367
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.229
Occasionally the poster sessions on the research projects

1368
00:41:44.850 --> 00:41:45.419
uh

1369
00:41:45.610 --> 00:41:46.600
that are carried out,

1370
00:41:46.610 --> 00:41:49.199
I mean they're they're really invigorating and a

1371
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:51.070
chance to talk to students one on one

1372
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.169
about what they're doing a little bit more detail,

1373
00:41:53.330 --> 00:41:53.679
but

1374
00:41:53.989 --> 00:41:56.030
interacting with students is the

1375
00:41:56.409 --> 00:41:57.810
is the most rewarding feature.

1376
00:42:01.620 --> 00:42:02.139
think that

1377
00:42:03.790 --> 00:42:04.110
colleges.

1378
00:42:05.520 --> 00:42:06.969
It's so fun to see.

1379
00:42:07.120 --> 00:42:07.320
We,

1380
00:42:07.560 --> 00:42:07.959
we,

1381
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:08.780
um,

1382
00:42:08.919 --> 00:42:11.300
a week and a half ago I met with a

1383
00:42:11.919 --> 00:42:13.219
number of the leaders of

1384
00:42:13.629 --> 00:42:14.179
one of

1385
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.239
the US service academies

1386
00:42:16.600 --> 00:42:18.459
who was saying how can we do,

1387
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:19.090
uh,

1388
00:42:19.120 --> 00:42:20.679
some of the things that are happening at,

1389
00:42:20.790 --> 00:42:22.199
at the honors college and

1390
00:42:22.520 --> 00:42:24.120
so we know that some of the best.

1391
00:42:24.550 --> 00:42:24.790
Uh,

1392
00:42:24.959 --> 00:42:29.340
engineering schools across the country have taken a look at the honors college.

1393
00:42:29.560 --> 00:42:30.139
Um,

1394
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:31.580
we've heard from,

1395
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.219
we know that other honors colleges are being initiated,

1396
00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:35.909
uh,

1397
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:40.300
with help from Arizonans who have paid attention to the honors college

1398
00:42:40.479 --> 00:42:43.560
and are looking to emulate as much as they can from the honors college.

1399
00:42:44.020 --> 00:42:44.689
So,

1400
00:42:44.699 --> 00:42:44.969
uh,

1401
00:42:45.020 --> 00:42:45.810
we see that

1402
00:42:45.969 --> 00:42:50.560
the Honors College is providing a great deal of leadership on a national scope

1403
00:42:51.139 --> 00:42:52.320
for universities

1404
00:42:52.500 --> 00:42:54.580
as ASU is as a whole.

1405
00:42:54.820 --> 00:42:56.580
When we think about access

1406
00:42:56.739 --> 00:42:58.030
plus excellence,

1407
00:42:58.310 --> 00:43:00.179
that's that defines ASU.

1408
00:43:00.540 --> 00:43:02.800
So access to to any.

1409
00:43:03.590 --> 00:43:03.820
Uh,

1410
00:43:03.830 --> 00:43:05.320
university capable student in our state,

1411
00:43:07.469 --> 00:43:07.899
um,

1412
00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:10.149
access to a higher education

1413
00:43:10.389 --> 00:43:11.570
plus excellence

1414
00:43:11.709 --> 00:43:12.399
with that,

1415
00:43:12.409 --> 00:43:12.729
uh,

1416
00:43:13.750 --> 00:43:14.570
opportunity that's given

1417
00:43:14.830 --> 00:43:16.010
by the honors college

1418
00:43:16.189 --> 00:43:18.129
to have very challenging,

1419
00:43:18.429 --> 00:43:18.810
uh,

1420
00:43:19.030 --> 00:43:20.610
self-inflicted challenging

1421
00:43:20.870 --> 00:43:22.790
work that the young people there

1422
00:43:22.989 --> 00:43:23.429
are doing.

1423
00:43:23.580 --> 00:43:23.889
So

1424
00:43:24.540 --> 00:43:25.860
Access plus excellence,

1425
00:43:25.879 --> 00:43:26.649
it's a pretty good

1426
00:43:26.899 --> 00:43:31.489
combination that has stood ASU and the honors college apart from

1427
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:33.350
the universities across the country.

1428
00:43:34.479 --> 00:43:34.689
By the way,

1429
00:43:35.010 --> 00:43:35.199
you,

1430
00:43:35.330 --> 00:43:37.389
you can't have this discussion without.

1431
00:43:38.889 --> 00:43:40.379
Making reference to

1432
00:43:40.959 --> 00:43:41.419
the

1433
00:43:42.080 --> 00:43:42.780
honors

1434
00:43:43.110 --> 00:43:45.659
college dorm and its cafeteria.

1435
00:43:47.020 --> 00:43:47.179
You know,

1436
00:43:47.219 --> 00:43:50.360
I've visited literally 100s of universities and

1437
00:43:50.580 --> 00:43:52.080
I was going back to school.

1438
00:43:53.010 --> 00:43:56.090
It is not the sort of dormitory that Stanford had when I was a

1439
00:43:56.090 --> 00:43:59.060
freshman there and not the cafeteria that Stanford had when I was a freshman.

1440
00:43:59.850 --> 00:43:59.860
Uh,

1441
00:43:59.889 --> 00:44:02.580
the living accommodations are phenomenal and

1442
00:44:03.489 --> 00:44:03.639
the,

1443
00:44:03.709 --> 00:44:04.169
the,

1444
00:44:04.330 --> 00:44:05.310
the sense of,

1445
00:44:05.889 --> 00:44:10.110
of this honors college being a cohesive unit

1446
00:44:10.449 --> 00:44:11.949
embedded within this

1447
00:44:12.350 --> 00:44:13.320
massive university,

1448
00:44:13.409 --> 00:44:13.689
I think,

1449
00:44:13.729 --> 00:44:14.449
is just,

1450
00:44:14.850 --> 00:44:15.540
uh,

1451
00:44:15.610 --> 00:44:16.790
speaks volumes for

1452
00:44:17.659 --> 00:44:19.379
opportunities for students there.

1453
00:44:19.979 --> 00:44:20.149
Uh,

1454
00:44:20.270 --> 00:44:21.860
but also the quality of,

1455
00:44:21.989 --> 00:44:22.669
of the,

1456
00:44:22.919 --> 00:44:23.419
uh,

1457
00:44:23.429 --> 00:44:24.850
enjoyment in the environment

1458
00:44:24.989 --> 00:44:25.949
that you can have there.

1459
00:44:26.820 --> 00:44:29.629
And that massive university isn't just massive,

1460
00:44:29.939 --> 00:44:32.120
but it is also demonstrating excellence

1461
00:44:32.260 --> 00:44:33.300
and innovation.

1462
00:44:33.540 --> 00:44:36.520
It is probably the most talked about university

1463
00:44:36.699 --> 00:44:38.260
in the United States today because

1464
00:44:38.659 --> 00:44:41.040
of the transformation taking place there

1465
00:44:41.219 --> 00:44:41.780
on.

1466
00:44:42.419 --> 00:44:44.469
Excellence and on access,

1467
00:44:44.780 --> 00:44:46.659
so it's a very exciting time.

1468
00:44:46.939 --> 00:44:47.379
Arizona,

1469
00:44:47.419 --> 00:44:47.699
I think,

1470
00:44:47.780 --> 00:44:50.719
is in fact living down that old reputation

1471
00:44:50.939 --> 00:44:55.340
of not being a place of academic excellence and proving itself worthy.

1472
00:44:55.580 --> 00:44:56.860
It's often been said that

1473
00:44:57.840 --> 00:44:59.520
Perception lags reality.

1474
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.300
I think that Arizona's academic opportunities are

1475
00:45:03.479 --> 00:45:04.020
now

1476
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:05.100
a reality

1477
00:45:05.870 --> 00:45:06.820
of excellence,

1478
00:45:06.949 --> 00:45:08.879
and a reputation will come along with that.

1479
00:45:09.739 --> 00:45:10.659
You may not know,

1480
00:45:10.780 --> 00:45:11.120
but

1481
00:45:11.459 --> 00:45:12.840
President Crowe lives

1482
00:45:13.179 --> 00:45:14.300
kitty corner to us,

1483
00:45:14.489 --> 00:45:15.080
only about.

1484
00:45:15.850 --> 00:45:17.149
75 yards

1485
00:45:17.330 --> 00:45:19.050
from where we're sitting now and,

1486
00:45:19.530 --> 00:45:19.879
and,

1487
00:45:19.889 --> 00:45:20.159
uh.

1488
00:45:20.959 --> 00:45:21.739
So I

1489
00:45:21.919 --> 00:45:22.620
get to see him.

1490
00:45:24.110 --> 00:45:25.909
You're driving to work and in and out,

1491
00:45:26.590 --> 00:45:26.889
but.

1492
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.600
I've been meaning to complain to him about those buses around town which say

1493
00:45:32.919 --> 00:45:35.159
ASU #1 in innovation,

1494
00:45:35.439 --> 00:45:36.439
Stanford #2,

1495
00:45:36.520 --> 00:45:37.909
MIT 3.

1496
00:45:38.560 --> 00:45:39.189
So,

1497
00:45:39.860 --> 00:45:40.389
um,

1498
00:45:40.600 --> 00:45:42.340
but Barbara points out,

1499
00:45:42.379 --> 00:45:43.620
ASU has,

1500
00:45:44.120 --> 00:45:44.659
I think,

1501
00:45:44.919 --> 00:45:47.909
is it safe to say it's come a long way since you were an undergraduate there?

1502
00:45:48.479 --> 00:45:48.939
I think

1503
00:45:49.510 --> 00:45:49.520
my,

1504
00:45:49.530 --> 00:45:49.750
uh,

1505
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:50.280
Latt

1506
00:45:50.870 --> 00:45:51.939
Coors leadership.

1507
00:45:52.949 --> 00:45:56.290
And then Michael Crow's is sort of a 12 punch that every other university

1508
00:45:57.899 --> 00:45:58.870
is envious of.

1509
00:45:59.449 --> 00:46:00.290
It really,

1510
00:46:00.669 --> 00:46:01.770
Laddie made it

1511
00:46:01.949 --> 00:46:04.169
a community-wide asset,

1512
00:46:04.429 --> 00:46:07.129
and Michael has made it a nationwide

1513
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:09.790
school to be emulated.

1514
00:46:10.189 --> 00:46:11.850
So it's a pretty good

1515
00:46:12.270 --> 00:46:12.949
12 punch.

1516
00:46:12.989 --> 00:46:14.629
You couldn't have hoped to line it up

1517
00:46:14.909 --> 00:46:15.469
any better.

1518
00:46:15.699 --> 00:46:19.090
So we're ever so fortunate to have had the transformational leadership

1519
00:46:19.419 --> 00:46:20.909
of two great leaders in a row.

1520
00:46:21.879 --> 00:46:21.889
Yeah,

1521
00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:24.159
refresh.

1522
00:46:29.469 --> 00:46:30.560
You were testing at that time.

1523
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:31.439
That was pretty long.

1524
00:46:31.560 --> 00:46:32.399
That was long.

1525
00:46:39.780 --> 00:46:39.919
Again,

1526
00:46:40.110 --> 00:46:40.530
we're good.

1527
00:46:43.100 --> 00:46:45.889
So what characteristics do you think define students who

1528
00:46:50.100 --> 00:46:50.810
Motivated

1529
00:46:51.629 --> 00:46:52.169
Because

1530
00:46:52.790 --> 00:46:54.550
they could get that ASU degree

1531
00:46:54.949 --> 00:46:56.010
without the extra work

1532
00:46:56.270 --> 00:46:57.189
of the thesis,

1533
00:46:57.389 --> 00:46:58.070
the leadership,

1534
00:46:58.189 --> 00:46:59.110
the extra courses,

1535
00:46:59.229 --> 00:46:59.350
the,

1536
00:46:59.429 --> 00:46:59.850
the

1537
00:47:00.189 --> 00:47:01.179
harder courses,

1538
00:47:01.500 --> 00:47:01.879
um,

1539
00:47:02.030 --> 00:47:02.449
so

1540
00:47:03.209 --> 00:47:06.449
this any student that chooses to go to Barrett is choosing

1541
00:47:06.830 --> 00:47:07.969
to do more work

1542
00:47:08.189 --> 00:47:09.409
than is necessary.

1543
00:47:09.989 --> 00:47:12.270
That's the kind of person who in the long run

1544
00:47:12.429 --> 00:47:14.590
is going to choose to take on

1545
00:47:14.830 --> 00:47:16.020
those insurmountable,

1546
00:47:16.229 --> 00:47:18.439
those challenges that are deemed.

1547
00:47:18.750 --> 00:47:19.110
Uh,

1548
00:47:19.169 --> 00:47:19.879
undoable.

1549
00:47:20.649 --> 00:47:20.659
Uh,

1550
00:47:20.780 --> 00:47:21.169
so

1551
00:47:21.300 --> 00:47:22.639
I think that uh

1552
00:47:22.899 --> 00:47:26.199
a student at the honors college is going to be defined

1553
00:47:26.340 --> 00:47:27.439
as someone who is

1554
00:47:28.620 --> 00:47:29.010
passionate,

1555
00:47:29.050 --> 00:47:29.760
aggressive,

1556
00:47:30.010 --> 00:47:31.520
willing to take on more

1557
00:47:31.659 --> 00:47:33.159
than what is required,

1558
00:47:33.419 --> 00:47:35.820
and then willing to pursue excellence in that

1559
00:47:36.100 --> 00:47:36.820
aspiration.

1560
00:47:38.889 --> 00:47:39.090
You know,

1561
00:47:39.229 --> 00:47:39.239
I,

1562
00:47:39.370 --> 00:47:40.590
I always define.

1563
00:47:41.520 --> 00:47:42.080
Um,

1564
00:47:42.229 --> 00:47:42.989
talent.

1565
00:47:44.050 --> 00:47:44.439
Uh,

1566
00:47:44.530 --> 00:47:48.179
in a prospective employee or university graduate is a,

1567
00:47:48.770 --> 00:47:51.919
a good education and passion for what they do,

1568
00:47:52.169 --> 00:47:53.659
and I see in the

1569
00:47:54.129 --> 00:47:54.949
honors

1570
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:57.389
college students

1571
00:47:57.770 --> 00:47:58.169
passion,

1572
00:47:58.209 --> 00:47:59.610
and they're demonstrating that passion,

1573
00:47:59.649 --> 00:47:59.919
they're

1574
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.590
a passion for educational excellence

1575
00:48:03.169 --> 00:48:04.209
over and above,

1576
00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:04.909
not just

1577
00:48:05.290 --> 00:48:07.449
the minimum number of courses to get out and.

1578
00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:09.120
Uh,

1579
00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:09.939
when I was.

1580
00:48:10.689 --> 00:48:12.280
Getting my PhDs,

1581
00:48:12.530 --> 00:48:15.709
some students did a statistical analysis of

1582
00:48:16.169 --> 00:48:17.290
what professor

1583
00:48:17.449 --> 00:48:18.669
should you work for

1584
00:48:18.929 --> 00:48:22.760
to have the highest probability of getting out in the shortest period of time

1585
00:48:23.330 --> 00:48:25.639
independent of what thesis topic you worked on,

1586
00:48:26.090 --> 00:48:27.510
and they made their selection on that

1587
00:48:27.649 --> 00:48:28.070
basis.

1588
00:48:28.149 --> 00:48:28.629
Uh,

1589
00:48:28.889 --> 00:48:30.030
my opinion was always,

1590
00:48:30.449 --> 00:48:30.840
uh,

1591
00:48:30.939 --> 00:48:33.810
show me somebody who is passionate about what they're doing,

1592
00:48:34.010 --> 00:48:35.620
passionate about their research,

1593
00:48:36.169 --> 00:48:36.629
and

1594
00:48:36.770 --> 00:48:39.010
that's the person you wanna hire long term.

1595
00:48:39.500 --> 00:48:40.120
Not the

1596
00:48:40.260 --> 00:48:42.120
person that's just interested in the

1597
00:48:42.340 --> 00:48:44.899
fastest way out or the easiest way to get through.

1598
00:48:48.270 --> 00:48:51.110
Would you explain the value of a varied education to a prospective.

1599
00:48:56.219 --> 00:48:56.659
Hey.

1600
00:48:58.070 --> 00:49:02.169
You wanna go to a number one rated academic institution

1601
00:49:03.550 --> 00:49:06.590
with all of the accouterments of a larger university,

1602
00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:07.949
great teachers,

1603
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.070
they practice the foundation of a good education system.

1604
00:49:11.189 --> 00:49:12.830
Great teachers another subject,

1605
00:49:13.270 --> 00:49:14.429
high expectations,

1606
00:49:14.629 --> 00:49:15.489
accountability.

1607
00:49:16.439 --> 00:49:17.219
Do you really want

1608
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:17.699
to

1609
00:49:18.830 --> 00:49:19.870
Graduate with.

1610
00:49:21.229 --> 00:49:22.800
Knowing a topic

1611
00:49:22.939 --> 00:49:25.879
or a series of topics really well and having passion

1612
00:49:26.449 --> 00:49:27.290
for what you do,

1613
00:49:27.899 --> 00:49:29.979
passion for what you wanna learn next,

1614
00:49:30.340 --> 00:49:31.219
passion for what you want,

1615
00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:32.229
where you wanna go next.

1616
00:49:33.179 --> 00:49:33.760
And

1617
00:49:34.219 --> 00:49:36.800
that opportunity is available and just like

1618
00:49:37.379 --> 00:49:38.399
uh when we do our.

1619
00:49:39.659 --> 00:49:40.889
Our basic schools,

1620
00:49:40.929 --> 00:49:41.429
uh,

1621
00:49:41.899 --> 00:49:42.340
uh,

1622
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.530
it's a self selection process.

1623
00:49:45.489 --> 00:49:46.679
Students have to choose.

1624
00:49:48.439 --> 00:49:50.360
To go to a basis charter school.

1625
00:49:50.580 --> 00:49:52.060
Students have to choose to

1626
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:53.699
go to the honors college.

1627
00:49:54.409 --> 00:49:56.610
They know what it's going to entail before they get there.

1628
00:49:56.889 --> 00:49:59.649
They know it's not going to be the easy way out,

1629
00:50:00.030 --> 00:50:01.729
that they're going to have to work hard,

1630
00:50:02.050 --> 00:50:03.350
but they're committed to that.

1631
00:50:03.729 --> 00:50:04.800
They have passion for that.

1632
00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:06.199
And

1633
00:50:06.570 --> 00:50:06.969
so

1634
00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:08.120
I would just tell them,

1635
00:50:08.300 --> 00:50:08.530
hey,

1636
00:50:08.610 --> 00:50:08.879
if,

1637
00:50:09.209 --> 00:50:11.050
if you have passion for what you wanna do

1638
00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:13.270
next and passion for getting a great education,

1639
00:50:13.729 --> 00:50:15.110
you wanna be surrounded by

1640
00:50:15.290 --> 00:50:16.969
people with equal passion,

1641
00:50:17.439 --> 00:50:18.770
this is the place to go.

1642
00:50:19.209 --> 00:50:20.760
If you just wanna get out in 4 years,

1643
00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:22.409
just go out and wanna get a degree and

1644
00:50:22.610 --> 00:50:23.350
that's all

1645
00:50:23.689 --> 00:50:24.649
the easiest possible way,

1646
00:50:25.530 --> 00:50:26.310
don't do it it's.

1647
00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:28.209
It's gonna be hard work.

1648
00:50:28.830 --> 00:50:29.110
Uh,

1649
00:50:29.149 --> 00:50:30.550
there are a lot of easier ways to do that.

1650
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:31.729
But

1651
00:50:32.389 --> 00:50:32.409
You you

1652
00:50:32.629 --> 00:50:33.229
you

1653
00:50:33.820 --> 00:50:35.919
I think you discovered going through life that.

1654
00:50:36.669 --> 00:50:36.949
Um,

1655
00:50:37.939 --> 00:50:38.320
The,

1656
00:50:38.479 --> 00:50:39.320
the fastest,

1657
00:50:39.439 --> 00:50:42.639
easiest way is not always the best way for you.

1658
00:50:43.350 --> 00:50:45.540
What you really wanna do is enjoy what you're doing.

1659
00:50:45.629 --> 00:50:46.070
You wanna

1660
00:50:46.409 --> 00:50:47.389
love what you're doing.

1661
00:50:47.669 --> 00:50:49.419
You wanna have passion for what you're doing.

1662
00:50:50.290 --> 00:50:50.959
And so

1663
00:50:51.409 --> 00:50:53.449
before we keep going this card got full,

1664
00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:55.050
so I have to switch the card to the other one.

1665
00:50:56.229 --> 00:50:57.280
I was finished anyway.

1666
00:51:02.080 --> 00:51:02.090
OK.

1667
00:51:04.229 --> 00:51:04.239
There

1668
00:51:05.989 --> 00:51:07.489
See in the top corner the number.

1669
00:51:24.429 --> 00:51:25.419
Should we start again?

1670
00:51:26.439 --> 00:51:27.399
Didn't get any of that.

1671
00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:28.580
What?

1672
00:51:29.399 --> 00:51:30.350
We didn't get any of that.

1673
00:51:30.399 --> 00:51:31.260
Should we start again?

1674
00:51:31.560 --> 00:51:31.870
Uh,

1675
00:51:32.110 --> 00:51:32.189
oh no,

1676
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:34.120
we got everything up until like the very,

1677
00:51:34.439 --> 00:51:36.560
very end of what you were saying about passion.

1678
00:51:39.129 --> 00:51:40.280
You gotta be passionate.

1679
00:51:41.949 --> 00:51:42.860
He says dead panic.

1680
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:44.229
I'm

1681
00:51:46.270 --> 00:51:46.399
sorry about that.

1682
00:51:46.959 --> 00:51:48.979
I don't think there's another place in the country

1683
00:51:49.479 --> 00:51:50.020
where

1684
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.419
you can get an Ivy level

1685
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:53.899
academic

1686
00:51:54.909 --> 00:51:55.209
education

1687
00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:00.489
embedded in a massive university that has all the benefits of the multiple

1688
00:52:00.919 --> 00:52:02.020
course types

1689
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:03.800
and the attraction

1690
00:52:04.040 --> 00:52:04.709
of,

1691
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:05.389
uh,

1692
00:52:05.790 --> 00:52:07.620
Broadway performances and

1693
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:08.739
the kinds of,

1694
00:52:08.959 --> 00:52:09.300
of,

1695
00:52:09.310 --> 00:52:09.909
um,

1696
00:52:11.550 --> 00:52:12.219
peripheral.

1697
00:52:13.729 --> 00:52:16.459
opportunities that a massive university provides,

1698
00:52:16.510 --> 00:52:17.489
so the combination

1699
00:52:17.870 --> 00:52:20.050
of academic excellence within a

1700
00:52:20.590 --> 00:52:21.250
small

1701
00:52:21.550 --> 00:52:22.370
community

1702
00:52:22.750 --> 00:52:23.770
embedded within

1703
00:52:24.270 --> 00:52:26.429
the massive university and all the benefits that

1704
00:52:26.429 --> 00:52:28.729
come from that in both courses of study and

1705
00:52:28.989 --> 00:52:30.560
and drawing power,

1706
00:52:30.830 --> 00:52:33.290
there's not another place in the country that has that combination.

1707
00:52:34.290 --> 00:52:34.300
Well,

1708
00:52:35.439 --> 00:52:35.879
least of all,

1709
00:52:35.899 --> 00:52:36.459
we forget.

1710
00:52:37.250 --> 00:52:37.929
Um,

1711
00:52:39.610 --> 00:52:39.850
Uh

1712
00:52:40.870 --> 00:52:42.689
We sent my granddaughter to

1713
00:52:42.949 --> 00:52:43.550
Stanford.

1714
00:52:45.129 --> 00:52:47.350
That's $60,000 a year tuition.

1715
00:52:47.979 --> 00:52:48.330
Uh,

1716
00:52:48.419 --> 00:52:50.030
and I think that an

1717
00:52:50.780 --> 00:52:52.219
honors college graduate.

1718
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:55.550
As far as an undergraduate education is concerned,

1719
00:52:55.689 --> 00:52:56.649
it's the equivalent.

1720
00:52:57.419 --> 00:52:57.939
Of that.

1721
00:52:59.159 --> 00:52:59.969
Stanford

1722
00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:00.449
education

1723
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.129
at a public university price and

1724
00:53:03.489 --> 00:53:04.770
you know ASU

1725
00:53:04.889 --> 00:53:07.570
is the honors colleges compared to the Ivy's

1726
00:53:07.570 --> 00:53:09.729
and essentially those are all private schools,

1727
00:53:09.850 --> 00:53:10.530
Stanford

1728
00:53:10.850 --> 00:53:11.669
private school,

1729
00:53:12.169 --> 00:53:12.590
uh,

1730
00:53:12.929 --> 00:53:14.110
but it's a public school

1731
00:53:14.250 --> 00:53:15.129
and it's affordable.

1732
00:53:17.919 --> 00:53:19.679
And that leads us on to the next question.

1733
00:53:20.979 --> 00:53:20.989
Um

1734
00:53:22.370 --> 00:53:23.389
Thank you for your time.

1735
00:53:23.540 --> 00:53:23.699
Um,

1736
00:53:23.810 --> 00:53:24.550
Courtney will begin the.

1737
00:53:26.659 --> 00:53:27.100
It's great.

1738
00:53:29.439 --> 00:53:30.860
Can you both tell us how you see

1739
00:53:31.629 --> 00:53:33.439
Evolving as an honors college within your lifetime?

1740
00:53:36.870 --> 00:53:36.879
Well,

1741
00:53:37.139 --> 00:53:37.149
I,

1742
00:53:37.469 --> 00:53:41.020
I think as Barbara eloquently put it earlier that,

1743
00:53:41.389 --> 00:53:41.780
uh,

1744
00:53:41.790 --> 00:53:44.469
nothing is stagnant or static in life,

1745
00:53:44.709 --> 00:53:45.770
especially education,

1746
00:53:46.270 --> 00:53:47.889
and what we're seeing today

1747
00:53:48.260 --> 00:53:48.580
is,

1748
00:53:48.590 --> 00:53:49.050
uh,

1749
00:53:49.709 --> 00:53:50.810
especially at ASU

1750
00:53:51.389 --> 00:53:53.790
and kind of sister universities like Purdue,

1751
00:53:53.830 --> 00:53:56.899
which I think is a pretty innovative university compared to ASU,

1752
00:53:57.669 --> 00:53:58.179
um,

1753
00:53:58.659 --> 00:54:00.469
changes in the way education is delivered,

1754
00:54:00.830 --> 00:54:03.010
whether it's face to face or online.

1755
00:54:03.610 --> 00:54:04.159
Uh,

1756
00:54:04.489 --> 00:54:07.110
changes in the opportunities to

1757
00:54:07.610 --> 00:54:11.129
study at other institutions while you're part of the home institution,

1758
00:54:11.489 --> 00:54:12.330
international study,

1759
00:54:12.649 --> 00:54:13.500
those sort of things.

1760
00:54:14.050 --> 00:54:14.409
So I,

1761
00:54:14.530 --> 00:54:15.489
I think that

1762
00:54:15.729 --> 00:54:17.850
ASU should continue to evolve.

1763
00:54:18.550 --> 00:54:19.459
In those fashions,

1764
00:54:19.469 --> 00:54:22.010
and they're not always easily predictable,

1765
00:54:22.709 --> 00:54:23.219
uh,

1766
00:54:23.229 --> 00:54:24.469
directions that you would go in.

1767
00:54:24.909 --> 00:54:25.580
One of the,

1768
00:54:25.909 --> 00:54:26.629
the obvious.

1769
00:54:27.290 --> 00:54:27.300
Uh,

1770
00:54:28.290 --> 00:54:30.520
predictable one is the international one,

1771
00:54:30.570 --> 00:54:31.080
which is

1772
00:54:31.370 --> 00:54:32.620
there's going to be more and more.

1773
00:54:33.479 --> 00:54:37.820
International cooperation in business and research

1774
00:54:38.439 --> 00:54:40.350
politics as we go forward,

1775
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:40.739
so

1776
00:54:41.040 --> 00:54:43.040
giving people an opportunity to.

1777
00:54:43.810 --> 00:54:47.760
To view their country from the eyes of a foreign country,

1778
00:54:47.979 --> 00:54:49.239
I think it's a magnificent

1779
00:54:49.379 --> 00:54:50.439
part of education.

1780
00:54:50.780 --> 00:54:53.080
I was fortunate enough to do that a couple of times and

1781
00:54:53.540 --> 00:54:55.860
uh with the fellowships at

1782
00:54:56.219 --> 00:54:57.199
other universities,

1783
00:54:57.939 --> 00:54:58.139
but.

1784
00:55:00.969 --> 00:55:04.290
We have confidence in the leadership of ASU that

1785
00:55:04.689 --> 00:55:05.239
has

1786
00:55:05.850 --> 00:55:06.510
demonstrated

1787
00:55:06.810 --> 00:55:09.429
by its number one ranking in innovation that

1788
00:55:09.929 --> 00:55:12.389
these innovative opportunities will come forward

1789
00:55:12.689 --> 00:55:13.699
consistently

1790
00:55:14.129 --> 00:55:15.590
and we would hope that the

1791
00:55:15.929 --> 00:55:17.719
honors college and the rest of ASU

1792
00:55:18.449 --> 00:55:19.330
would accommodate them,

1793
00:55:19.610 --> 00:55:20.050
accept them,

1794
00:55:20.169 --> 00:55:21.290
mold them to fit.

1795
00:55:22.659 --> 00:55:22.699
ASU particular

1796
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:24.120
uh

1797
00:55:24.270 --> 00:55:25.090
personality.

1798
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:26.179
But

1799
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:27.760
continue to move forward.

1800
00:55:28.649 --> 00:55:29.469
I would say the biggest

1801
00:55:30.129 --> 00:55:32.070
change in the future of the honors college

1802
00:55:32.330 --> 00:55:33.949
is that these extraordinary

1803
00:55:34.250 --> 00:55:35.310
graduates

1804
00:55:35.889 --> 00:55:38.149
are going to repay

1805
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:39.189
their

1806
00:55:39.330 --> 00:55:40.870
benefits of having been

1807
00:55:41.409 --> 00:55:41.949
there

1808
00:55:42.449 --> 00:55:45.469
and they're gonna become advocates for the honors college

1809
00:55:45.729 --> 00:55:46.550
which will

1810
00:55:46.729 --> 00:55:47.189
make

1811
00:55:47.449 --> 00:55:49.889
our support pale in comparison.

1812
00:55:50.379 --> 00:55:50.389
Because

1813
00:55:50.919 --> 00:55:53.820
they're going to be giving back and they're going to help to

1814
00:55:54.560 --> 00:55:55.179
resource

1815
00:55:55.520 --> 00:55:56.060
the

1816
00:55:56.409 --> 00:56:00.020
drive for those new to meet those new needs

1817
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.350
that will occur as time,

1818
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:03.770
as the world changes.

1819
00:56:04.030 --> 00:56:04.820
And so

1820
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:06.620
the biggest change will be

1821
00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:07.580
that

1822
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:08.409
alum

1823
00:56:08.560 --> 00:56:10.379
will be playing a bigger and bigger role

1824
00:56:10.629 --> 00:56:14.030
in assisting the honors college to meet future needs.

1825
00:56:17.389 --> 00:56:17.899
What can be

1826
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:19.949
gap

1827
00:56:21.350 --> 00:56:22.780
College more feasible for outstanding.

1828
00:56:27.459 --> 00:56:28.219
Um

1829
00:56:30.209 --> 00:56:31.629
That's a standard question.

1830
00:56:32.659 --> 00:56:33.729
Not facing

1831
00:56:34.070 --> 00:56:34.739
the honors college,

1832
00:56:34.790 --> 00:56:35.889
but facing all

1833
00:56:36.350 --> 00:56:38.000
higher ed choices going forward.

1834
00:56:38.110 --> 00:56:38.189
Uh,

1835
00:56:38.790 --> 00:56:39.239
uh,

1836
00:56:39.310 --> 00:56:40.429
one of the things I think,

1837
00:56:40.469 --> 00:56:41.030
uh,

1838
00:56:41.409 --> 00:56:43.610
it is very positive is that ASU.

1839
00:56:44.729 --> 00:56:46.610
I think has done a very,

1840
00:56:46.729 --> 00:56:48.030
very good job despite

1841
00:56:48.530 --> 00:56:51.229
decreasing state support in terms of providing

1842
00:56:52.010 --> 00:56:53.510
an affordable education,

1843
00:56:54.010 --> 00:56:54.500
um,

1844
00:56:54.929 --> 00:56:55.379
certainly.

1845
00:56:56.449 --> 00:57:00.179
Any tuition can be deemed unaffordable by the lowest.

1846
00:57:01.179 --> 00:57:01.520
Uh,

1847
00:57:01.540 --> 00:57:02.919
economic class and

1848
00:57:03.260 --> 00:57:04.320
uh I think the

1849
00:57:04.860 --> 00:57:05.760
university.

1850
00:57:06.860 --> 00:57:07.500
In my opinion,

1851
00:57:07.540 --> 00:57:09.600
has been committed to provide

1852
00:57:10.189 --> 00:57:11.020
uh tuition,

1853
00:57:11.139 --> 00:57:14.659
scholarships and opportunity to students who are financially,

1854
00:57:14.979 --> 00:57:15.620
uh,

1855
00:57:15.820 --> 00:57:16.419
hurting

1856
00:57:16.780 --> 00:57:17.520
to attend.

1857
00:57:18.100 --> 00:57:18.449
So I'm,

1858
00:57:18.500 --> 00:57:18.860
I'm.

1859
00:57:19.520 --> 00:57:21.699
I can applaud what uh

1860
00:57:22.060 --> 00:57:23.699
President Crowe has done in that respect.

1861
00:57:25.260 --> 00:57:25.530
I mean,

1862
00:57:25.610 --> 00:57:25.840
just,

1863
00:57:25.929 --> 00:57:26.360
uh

1864
00:57:27.149 --> 00:57:27.989
Two or 3 days ago,

1865
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:28.679
I read an

1866
00:57:28.909 --> 00:57:30.699
op ed that he wrote to the state

1867
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:32.500
asking for more support,

1868
00:57:33.120 --> 00:57:33.600
uh,

1869
00:57:33.959 --> 00:57:34.449
uh,

1870
00:57:34.520 --> 00:57:34.770
and,

1871
00:57:34.879 --> 00:57:37.179
and specifically calling out for,

1872
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:38.139
uh,

1873
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:38.659
the

1874
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:40.959
accessibility of Arizona State.

1875
00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:42.120
And one of the

1876
00:57:42.479 --> 00:57:43.459
things that I think he,

1877
00:57:43.560 --> 00:57:44.699
he should be

1878
00:57:45.149 --> 00:57:46.840
absolutely applauded for is,

1879
00:57:47.250 --> 00:57:47.709
is,

1880
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:48.189
uh,

1881
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:49.580
approaching the whole issue

1882
00:57:50.120 --> 00:57:50.520
of.

1883
00:57:51.520 --> 00:57:52.510
A student body.

1884
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:56.239
Quality student body not determined by

1885
00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:59.300
what small fraction of the applicants you

1886
00:57:59.949 --> 00:58:00.179
accept,

1887
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:01.899
but a student body deter

1888
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:03.179
determined by

1889
00:58:03.520 --> 00:58:03.979
what,

1890
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.919
how many of the applicants you can accommodate.

1891
00:58:07.689 --> 00:58:09.409
And so I think the university is,

1892
00:58:09.530 --> 00:58:10.050
in my opinion,

1893
00:58:10.129 --> 00:58:11.189
has been very

1894
00:58:11.489 --> 00:58:12.969
cognizant of that whole issue.

1895
00:58:13.870 --> 00:58:14.870
And has,

1896
00:58:14.879 --> 00:58:15.530
uh,

1897
00:58:16.110 --> 00:58:16.219
the

1898
00:58:16.669 --> 00:58:18.800
face of the economic slowdown

1899
00:58:19.189 --> 00:58:20.510
a decade ago and

1900
00:58:20.830 --> 00:58:22.489
decrease in state support

1901
00:58:23.070 --> 00:58:24.189
has managed pretty well.

1902
00:58:24.949 --> 00:58:25.550
Um,

1903
00:58:27.020 --> 00:58:27.030
Uh

1904
00:58:28.090 --> 00:58:28.100
uh.

1905
00:58:28.860 --> 00:58:29.020
You know,

1906
00:58:29.110 --> 00:58:29.689
some of us,

1907
00:58:29.699 --> 00:58:30.479
uh,

1908
00:58:30.939 --> 00:58:31.169
uh,

1909
00:58:31.179 --> 00:58:32.360
I graduated,

1910
00:58:32.860 --> 00:58:33.399
uh,

1911
00:58:33.550 --> 00:58:34.989
from Stanford with a

1912
00:58:35.770 --> 00:58:38.399
A student loan of a magnificent amount,

1913
00:58:38.449 --> 00:58:40.820
I think $1500 at that time frame.

1914
00:58:41.629 --> 00:58:42.270
Uh,

1915
00:58:42.790 --> 00:58:43.729
but that was a lot of money

1916
00:58:44.340 --> 00:58:45.899
at that time frame and I,

1917
00:58:46.300 --> 00:58:46.780
and I,

1918
00:58:46.870 --> 00:58:47.209
I,

1919
00:58:47.879 --> 00:58:48.840
I don't think we should

1920
00:58:49.979 --> 00:58:50.860
Unnecessarily

1921
00:58:51.739 --> 00:58:53.280
saddle students with

1922
00:58:53.699 --> 00:58:54.719
student loans and,

1923
00:58:55.379 --> 00:58:55.719
uh,

1924
00:58:55.739 --> 00:58:57.939
especially financially struggling students.

1925
00:58:58.739 --> 00:58:59.780
And so the,

1926
00:58:59.879 --> 00:59:00.449
the

1927
00:59:00.600 --> 00:59:02.870
general trend I see not only at ASU but.

1928
00:59:03.739 --> 00:59:05.760
Many universities is to use

1929
00:59:06.129 --> 00:59:06.780
endowment,

1930
00:59:06.939 --> 00:59:07.439
use,

1931
00:59:07.449 --> 00:59:07.850
uh,

1932
00:59:08.300 --> 00:59:09.129
those funds for,

1933
00:59:09.139 --> 00:59:09.459
in fact,

1934
00:59:09.540 --> 00:59:10.560
scholarships,

1935
00:59:10.899 --> 00:59:13.320
such that any student who qualifies

1936
00:59:13.659 --> 00:59:14.739
should be able to attend.

1937
00:59:16.139 --> 00:59:18.239
Sarizona's constitution provides that,

1938
00:59:18.500 --> 00:59:19.219
uh,

1939
00:59:19.340 --> 00:59:20.000
university

1940
00:59:20.610 --> 00:59:22.979
education should be as nearly free as possible.

1941
00:59:23.550 --> 00:59:23.560
Uh,

1942
00:59:23.580 --> 00:59:23.729
you,

1943
00:59:24.100 --> 00:59:27.070
you might balance that with the you get what you pay for,

1944
00:59:27.459 --> 00:59:28.050
uh,

1945
00:59:28.060 --> 00:59:28.560
line,

1946
00:59:28.580 --> 00:59:29.280
and that

1947
00:59:29.419 --> 00:59:32.580
you don't want to diminish the quality of the education.

1948
00:59:32.810 --> 00:59:34.909
You want to make it accessible.

1949
00:59:35.300 --> 00:59:35.699
So.

1950
00:59:36.629 --> 00:59:38.729
That's the big challenge of our age

1951
00:59:38.989 --> 00:59:40.060
is to

1952
00:59:40.310 --> 00:59:41.010
uh have

1953
00:59:41.350 --> 00:59:44.209
students get access to a great education

1954
00:59:44.870 --> 00:59:47.159
and have uh the and have

1955
00:59:47.350 --> 00:59:48.169
that uh

1956
00:59:48.429 --> 00:59:49.830
be made possible by

1957
00:59:50.030 --> 00:59:51.570
imaginative funding

1958
00:59:51.750 --> 00:59:53.530
and we've seen a lot of that

1959
00:59:54.189 --> 00:59:54.610
by

1960
00:59:54.870 --> 00:59:55.729
both uh

1961
00:59:56.070 --> 00:59:56.850
presidents

1962
00:59:57.330 --> 00:59:58.510
Cre and Crow.

1963
00:59:58.919 --> 00:59:59.429
Um,

1964
00:59:59.489 --> 01:00:01.909
but that's going to be a continuing challenge is how we

1965
01:00:02.129 --> 01:00:05.989
make it accessible for students capable of doing university level work

1966
01:00:06.209 --> 01:00:07.709
and having them have a home

1967
01:00:07.850 --> 01:00:08.770
at Arizona State.

1968
01:00:10.489 --> 01:00:11.270
Ambassador

1969
01:00:12.250 --> 01:00:14.139
During some of the challenges you have spoken about.

1970
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:15.850
Lessons you

1971
01:00:18.540 --> 01:00:19.959
I guess the lesson I would hope

1972
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:21.219
for young people,

1973
01:00:21.820 --> 01:00:22.449
especially young women,

1974
01:00:22.459 --> 01:00:23.080
to have is

1975
01:00:23.580 --> 01:00:25.020
the lesson of just go for it,

1976
01:00:25.620 --> 01:00:27.020
see what you can do,

1977
01:00:27.340 --> 01:00:30.100
be energetic in those college years,

1978
01:00:30.260 --> 01:00:31.610
try diverse things,

1979
01:00:31.979 --> 01:00:33.159
find out what

1980
01:00:33.419 --> 01:00:34.080
it is

1981
01:00:34.209 --> 01:00:37.439
you really enjoy or what you really have an aptitude and,

1982
01:00:37.620 --> 01:00:38.159
and,

1983
01:00:38.169 --> 01:00:38.520
uh,

1984
01:00:38.560 --> 01:00:39.020
and.

1985
01:00:39.550 --> 01:00:40.760
A passion for,

1986
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:43.120
but try a lot of diverse things.

1987
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:44.739
I was forced to it because I

1988
01:00:44.919 --> 01:00:46.739
had to work 5 different jobs

1989
01:00:46.919 --> 01:00:48.620
at a time to pay for everything,

1990
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.899
but those turned out to be very beneficial

1991
01:00:52.570 --> 01:00:54.540
realities in my life that

1992
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:56.379
I wouldn't have thought at the time.

1993
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:57.449
But even

1994
01:00:58.310 --> 01:01:02.649
Work like working at the bookstore ended up being something that in my later life

1995
01:01:02.830 --> 01:01:05.429
it was the bookstore that the FBI background checks

1996
01:01:05.429 --> 01:01:07.830
when I was going through clearances for government jobs.

1997
01:01:08.070 --> 01:01:09.679
They would always go to the bookstore and talk to

1998
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:11.419
the owner of the bookstore who I worked for.

1999
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:12.129
So,

2000
01:01:13.350 --> 01:01:14.909
I didn't do that by choice.

2001
01:01:14.949 --> 01:01:16.979
I did it by by necessity,

2002
01:01:17.229 --> 01:01:18.449
but some of those things

2003
01:01:18.939 --> 01:01:21.050
that forced me to try different

2004
01:01:21.899 --> 01:01:23.129
things at the time

2005
01:01:23.469 --> 01:01:23.850
were

2006
01:01:24.149 --> 01:01:25.429
beneficial in the long run.

2007
01:01:27.879 --> 01:01:30.719
Legacy do you both hope to leave for future Barrett students?

2008
01:01:36.399 --> 01:01:37.159
Opportunity.

2009
01:01:38.649 --> 01:01:40.379
I think that uh

2010
01:01:40.729 --> 01:01:41.790
what we

2011
01:01:42.820 --> 01:01:45.530
Have helped in a small way and what uh

2012
01:01:45.979 --> 01:01:48.459
President Crowe and Dean Jacobs do and the rest of

2013
01:01:48.459 --> 01:01:52.219
the staff is provide the opportunity for a wonderful education.

2014
01:01:53.090 --> 01:01:53.629
And that

2015
01:01:53.770 --> 01:01:57.050
wonderful education provides a follow on opportunity

2016
01:01:57.050 --> 01:01:58.610
to go out and do something wonderful.

2017
01:02:01.780 --> 01:02:01.790
Uh,

2018
01:02:02.060 --> 01:02:02.560
I would

2019
01:02:02.820 --> 01:02:04.800
just steal a quote from

2020
01:02:05.379 --> 01:02:08.600
one of the founders of the company that I worked for for 35 years Intel.

2021
01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:10.080
Bob Noyce was uh

2022
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:11.429
Founder

2023
01:02:12.010 --> 01:02:12.510
Uh,

2024
01:02:12.530 --> 01:02:13.060
and

2025
01:02:14.080 --> 01:02:14.739
He

2026
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.350
had a comment which is emblazoned in the lobby of Intel's headquarters,

2027
01:02:19.399 --> 01:02:19.899
which is.

2028
01:02:20.919 --> 01:02:22.639
Don't be encumbered by history,

2029
01:02:22.959 --> 01:02:24.580
go off and do something wonderful.

2030
01:02:25.919 --> 01:02:27.459
And that's what

2031
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:28.679
the opportunity.

2032
01:02:30.149 --> 01:02:31.649
A good education gives you,

2033
01:02:32.189 --> 01:02:34.050
it gives you the opportunity to don't be

2034
01:02:34.229 --> 01:02:35.090
held back by

2035
01:02:35.600 --> 01:02:36.580
historical trends,

2036
01:02:36.620 --> 01:02:37.600
historical thoughts,

2037
01:02:37.669 --> 01:02:38.870
historical perspectives,

2038
01:02:38.949 --> 01:02:39.270
but

2039
01:02:39.510 --> 01:02:40.689
to go out and do something

2040
01:02:41.149 --> 01:02:42.030
new and wonderful.

2041
01:02:43.209 --> 01:02:43.840
And

2042
01:02:44.889 --> 01:02:46.070
A good education.

2043
01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:48.969
And love and passion for what you do

2044
01:02:49.429 --> 01:02:50.750
gives you that opportunity.

2045
01:02:51.939 --> 01:02:53.080
And we hope that all

2046
01:02:53.959 --> 01:02:55.500
Graduates of the honors college,

2047
01:02:56.080 --> 01:02:56.439
appreciate that.

2048
01:02:58.090 --> 01:02:58.969
I couldn't say it better.

2049
01:02:59.050 --> 01:03:01.989
I think that's exactly what we would hope our legacy would be,

2050
01:03:02.209 --> 01:03:03.469
and our hope would be

2051
01:03:03.770 --> 01:03:05.659
that through our support,

2052
01:03:06.090 --> 01:03:09.409
more students get access to that opportunity.

2053
01:03:14.409 --> 01:03:15.239
US diversity,

2054
01:03:15.350 --> 01:03:15.709
what bear.

2055
01:03:17.110 --> 01:03:17.750
Excuse me,

2056
01:03:18.030 --> 01:03:21.149
while we already supports students who are diverse in terms of race,

2057
01:03:21.510 --> 01:03:21.989
gender,

2058
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:23.070
citizenship status,

2059
01:03:23.149 --> 01:03:24.080
and socioeconomic.

2060
01:03:25.379 --> 01:03:26.909
And the college continue to foster and

2061
01:03:27.500 --> 01:03:29.100
That is more supportive of diversity.

2062
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:32.219
I think we need to just respect people

2063
01:03:32.439 --> 01:03:33.949
for what they bring to the table,

2064
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:35.239
for what they do.

2065
01:03:35.520 --> 01:03:37.590
The packaging isn't what matters.

2066
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.219
What matters is

2067
01:03:39.409 --> 01:03:41.699
a respect for each individual

2068
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:42.659
and

2069
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:44.179
and

2070
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:45.340
a nurturing

2071
01:03:45.669 --> 01:03:48.639
of what's inside that package and to bring

2072
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:50.560
that out and develop it for greater achievement.

2073
01:03:53.020 --> 01:03:53.739
Totally agree.

2074
01:03:56.260 --> 01:03:57.399
Thank you guys for your

2075
01:03:58.780 --> 01:03:59.939
If you have any more thoughts to share,

2076
01:04:00.100 --> 01:04:01.659
please feel free to reach out.

2077
01:04:02.649 --> 01:04:03.290
If you have any questions

2078
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:06.110
Anniversary oral

2079
01:04:07.040 --> 01:04:07.449
Contact

2080
01:04:09.300 --> 01:04:09.929
Good job.

2081
01:04:10.379 --> 01:04:11.050
Well done.

2082
01:04:12.020 --> 01:04:14.300
And we finished with how many minutes left on the,

2083
01:04:14.649 --> 01:04:15.510
on the 3rd 15

2084
01:04:16.459 --> 01:04:16.469
minutes.

2085
01:04:16.979 --> 01:04:16.989
Oh

2086
01:04:17.459 --> 01:04:18.000
man.

2087
01:04:19.899 --> 01:04:20.090
Yeah,

2088
01:04:20.379 --> 01:04:22.139
I think you skipped over a couple maybe,

2089
01:04:22.179 --> 01:04:22.780
or you've

2090
01:04:23.340 --> 01:04:23.729
good.

2091
01:04:23.969 --> 01:04:24.600
Well done.

2092
01:04:25.969 --> 01:04:27.620
Could we possibly get some pictures with you guys?

2093
01:04:27.739 --> 01:04:28.439
It'd be a pleasure.

2094
01:04:31.300 --> 01:04:31.919
stop this

2095
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:34.020
That's a lot of wonderful insight.

2096
01:04:34.110 --> 01:04:35.010
Thank you both so much.

2097
01:04:35.370 --> 01:04:36.020
My pleasure.

2098
01:04:38.060 --> 01:04:39.830
It's wonderful to see how much you light up.

2099
01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:41.239
Education.

2100
01:04:41.989 --> 01:04:42.879
You just lie down.

2101
01:04:44.989 --> 01:04:45.919
It's uh

2102
01:04:47.169 --> 01:04:47.889
Very simply,

2103
01:04:48.050 --> 01:04:48.989
it is.

2104
01:04:49.860 --> 01:04:50.540
The.

2105
01:04:51.340 --> 01:04:52.459
One thing that.

2106
01:04:53.270 --> 01:04:56.459
A generation is most responsible for,

2107
01:04:56.540 --> 01:04:59.159
which is providing that opportunity to the next generation.

2108
01:05:00.669 --> 01:05:02.090
And that only works.

2109
01:05:02.969 --> 01:05:03.439
Long term,

2110
01:05:03.449 --> 01:05:04.199
if you do that.

2111
01:05:05.229 --> 01:05:05.540
Well,

2112
01:05:05.709 --> 01:05:08.169
it's got dark in here comparatively.

2113
01:05:12.129 --> 01:05:12.139
Oh,

2114
01:05:14.310 --> 01:05:14.540
thanks.

2115
01:05:14.550 --> 01:05:16.250
It's all pretty stream of consciousness,

2116
01:05:16.590 --> 01:05:17.820
but good questions,

2117
01:05:18.070 --> 01:05:19.649
good questions help to elicit

2118
01:05:19.860 --> 01:05:20.330
um

2119
01:05:20.550 --> 01:05:21.070
insights.

2120
01:05:21.389 --> 01:05:22.770
What kind of backdrop are you looking for?

2121
01:05:22.830 --> 01:05:24.090
You want the painting or?

2122
01:05:25.969 --> 01:05:25.979
Sure.

2123
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:27.500
It

2124
01:05:28.149 --> 01:05:28.159
was

2125
01:05:29.139 --> 01:05:30.020
Is it raining?

2126
01:05:30.179 --> 01:05:30.439
Oh,

2127
01:05:30.580 --> 01:05:31.239
how fun.

2128
01:05:32.580 --> 01:05:33.179
Did it rain?

2129
01:05:33.620 --> 01:05:33.699
Yeah,

2130
01:05:33.790 --> 01:05:34.479
it's raining.

2131
01:05:35.080 --> 01:05:35.840
It's all wet.

2132
01:05:36.620 --> 01:05:38.260
But if it isn't raining at the moment,

2133
01:05:38.340 --> 01:05:39.959
that will make it an even more beautiful.

2134
01:05:41.209 --> 01:05:41.219
and

2135
01:05:45.229 --> 01:05:46.429
it didn't go in my pocket.

2136
01:05:46.479 --> 01:05:47.790
It was just sitting on the couch.

2137
01:05:49.550 --> 01:05:49.669
Yeah,

2138
01:05:49.750 --> 01:05:50.050
we don't want a

2139
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:51.550
nice shirt.

2140
01:05:51.790 --> 01:05:52.330
Thank you.

2141
01:05:54.739 --> 01:05:55.639
So while we're setting up

2142
01:05:56.780 --> 01:05:57.020
Uh,

2143
01:05:57.149 --> 01:06:00.310
Doctor Footer and I are hoping to put together an exhibition case for

2144
01:06:00.310 --> 01:06:02.090
this at part of this class that we teach history will assemble.

2145
01:06:05.110 --> 01:06:05.489
Do

2146
01:06:05.810 --> 01:06:07.610
exhibition design and this kind of thing.

2147
01:06:07.729 --> 01:06:08.209
So

2148
01:06:08.449 --> 01:06:09.129
if you

2149
01:06:09.409 --> 01:06:09.770
not now.